Drawing Hands and Pot Odds

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Re: Pot odds. The dirty little secret about hold 'em is that the concept of pot odds isn't very helpful. A much better idea is to look at your effective odds, which is a way of expressing the relationship between how much it's going to cost you to see your hand through vs. how much you expect to win if you end up dragging the pot.

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Let's open the discussion to using effective odds vs. implied odds if pot odds are insufficient. I go with effective odds. If you are going to estimate how big the pot will be at a showdown, then you should factor in your total bets to get to the showdown.