Theory of Poker: Chapters 5-7 Discussion

MEbenhoe · #1 08-30-2004, 01:57 AM

Well I'm trying something different for this section because I think in the first section some people might not have been able to ask questions they needed to ask because too much of the focus might have been on the discussion starter questions I put out there. I could be way off too, but for this section I'm just gonna post chapters to start posting under and then hopefully you'll post your thoughts and questions on these chapters. Whether this sucks and you think the other way was much better or if you like this better just let me know.

MEbenhoe · #2 08-30-2004, 01:58 AM

This section is for discussing Pot Odds

MEbenhoe · #3 08-30-2004, 01:59 AM

This section is for discussing Effective Odds

MEbenhoe · #4 08-30-2004, 02:00 AM

This section is for discussing Implied Odds and Reverse Implied Odds

Smokey98 · #5 08-30-2004, 04:13 AM

I think that is best as I didn't get too much out of the first go around, however I think that I'm getting pot odds and all fine.

sethypooh21 · #6 08-30-2004, 04:53 AM

I think the perhaps the most overlooked, and one of the more important concepts in this chapter is the relationship between position ond pot odds. P.41. We've all had it happen, we call a flop bet with a marginal draw thinking "pot odds" and suddenly it gets raised behind us and reraised by the orignal bettor. It's two back to us. It could get capped behind us. We might have correct odds to call each individual time, but as a whole, calling the 3-4 bets is clearly a losing proposition, all because we ignored the possibility of more action behind us.

chaos · #7 08-30-2004, 08:25 AM

I agree. This is an important concept. Caro also mentions that you can loosen up if the raiser or bettor was immediately to your left, then when it gets back to you you get to "close the action." If you do not get to close the action you must take into account the possibility of a raise behind you reducing your pot odds.

Gamblor · #8 08-30-2004, 10:03 AM

Agreed - I'll call with a ton of hands - bottom pair, overcards, etc. etc. when closing the action.

A lot of times I'll see a lot of turns if I'm the limper closest to the preflop raiser because I have the "relative button" - as in, assuming the preflop raiser bets the flop, I'll be last to act.

Gamblor · #9 08-30-2004, 10:05 AM

I remember reading somewhere once that you could actually make a profit if you bought in for 1 BB every hand and waited for high cards and pairs before throwing it all in. You wouldn't have to pay off rivers and you'd get to see all 7 cards.

Anyone have a clue on how this relates to (Reverse) Implied Odds?

MEbenhoe · #10 08-30-2004, 11:11 AM

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I think that is best as I didn't get too much out of the first go around, however I think that I'm getting pot odds and all fine.

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How would you like a combination of the two? Like for each section have one question to get the discussion started and then it should easily spread out from there?