2 Party 50NL hands: T3 MP3 & KJs UTG+1

apaugust · #1 12-30-2005, 03:55 AM

Hand 1: I just don't know about this hand.
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UTG ($50.40) 14/0 260hands
Hero ($50)
SB ($103.60) 54/10 48hands

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets $0.5, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2.50, BB folds, UTG calls $2.50.

Turn: ($12) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, UTG calls $6.

River: ($30) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10, UTG raises to $20, Hero calls $10, SB folds.

Final Pot: $80

Hand 2: Just tell me everything I did wrong.
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Button ($90.90) 42/15 172hands
Hero ($42.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) raises to $1.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, CO folds, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($9) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $3, UTG folds, Hero raises to $9, Button calls $9, SB folds.

Turn: ($30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $60

Fallen Hero · #2 12-30-2005, 04:02 AM

Hand #1: don't post the blinds there and fold on the flop
Hand #2: fold on the flop

PS: reload before hand 2

apaugust · #3 12-30-2005, 04:05 AM

I usually post CO and BU, but I was only 1 off CO and didn't really care, I don't see it as being a big -EV thing.

Why are you folding both of these flops, that seems really weak to me.

I was going to reload when I got down to $40.

Fallen Hero · #4 12-30-2005, 04:06 AM

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Why are you folding both of these flops, that seems really weak to me.

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because you're bluffing in both hands

EDIT: "SB (poster) raises to $1.75, UTG calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50."

and you actually think no one has an ace?

apaugust · #5 12-30-2005, 04:12 AM

I had a weak bet to me on both hands, The raise in the second was from a really agg idiot, I didn't assume someone had an A and raised getting the pf raiser to fold. What do you think of my play in hand two after the flop.

#6 12-30-2005, 04:14 AM

I think I was at the table for hand two. Did villain have AA for quads? If not, then an eerily similar hand happened earlier on Bodog at my table tonight.

I don't think hand 1 was terrible, but you cannot lose that much with a mediocre King in a multiway pot in early position with two Aces on the flop. I definitely dump this one, usually preflop at full table.

Fallen Hero · #7 12-30-2005, 04:15 AM

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I had a weak bet to me on both hands, The raise in the second was from a really agg idiot, I didn't assume someone had an A and raised getting the pf raiser to fold. What do you think of my play in hand two after the flop.

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and in both situations after calling that weak bet you end up losing a lot more in later streets.

I fold on the river in hand 2

#8 12-30-2005, 04:17 AM

Nevermind, just saw that these were Party hands. That's pretty weird, though, I saw a hand on Bodog with the same board and action, and the villain had AA for quads.

Online poker is so rigged.

Woo hoo!! Just noticed I'm a member now...If I keep making useless posts like this, I can become a carpal tunnel and maybe people will respect my opinions.

apaugust · #9 12-30-2005, 04:20 AM

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and in both situations after calling that weak bet you end up losing a lot more in later streets.

I fold on the river in hand 2

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I raised the weak bets not called. And who says I lost both hands. Also I was very close to folding hand 2, but I called and he had a busted flush draw.

Fallen Hero · #10 12-30-2005, 04:25 AM

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and in both situations after calling that weak bet you end up losing a lot more in later streets.

I fold on the river in hand 2

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I raised the weak bets not called. And who says I lost both hands. Also I was very close to folding hand 2, but I called and he had a busted flush draw.

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if you look at it in a EV point of view, you lost a lot of money on both hands because of those small bets, it doesn't really matter if you won the second hand or even both.