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Simple but confused with AK
5-handed
Completely unknown player who just sat down one orbit ago raises UTG. LAG coldcalls in the CO. I 3-bet AdKd on the button. Blinds fold. Unknown caps it. Lag calls 2 again. I call. Flop: 8s8h3d Unknown Bets, Lag calls, I call? Turn: 9c Unknown bets, Lag folds, I fold? 1. Is this standard against a completely unknown? Should I have raised the flop? 2. What if the Unknown was a Lag aswell? |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
what limits?
Most capping ranges in early > AK |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
3-6
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
This is tough without any read at all. I may call down as there's a chance A) we're ahead/splitting or B) we'll improve to best hand. It will also be nice to look hiim up here.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
I like your line. Raising the flop is probably going to get you 3-bet here, even if you're tying or beating the unknown. If he's a LAG I think we have to call this down, though.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
Pot's massive. I don't think calling the hand down here is awful.
Pot is 9.25BB's to you on the turn HU, so effective odds to call down are 10.25:2. If our AK is ahead 1 time in 5 then we profit. We don't need to even be ahead that often though as we probably have 3 or 6 outs here to improve. I think a call down is profitable, and gives us some information on the unknown to top it off. |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
I think we are raising or folding this flop vs an unknown. He's likely to have a PP which leans me towards folding. I guess a peel isn't bad with our backdoor draw. I don't understand how an unknown can be a LAG--he is unknown. I guess a LAG by stats and no other reads. I have noticed a lot of LAGs do the obligatory pre-flop cap with total junk like Ax. It's [censored] up. This makes me want to get to showdown. So I guess post-flop, I'd be /call/call/call/.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
OK scratch my original advice, I agree with Krimson. A call down is good. Pot is big and we're good at least 20 % of the time here.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
[ QUOTE ]
I think we are raising or folding this flop vs an unknown. He's likely to have a PP which leans me towards folding. I guess a peel isn't bad with our backdoor draw. I don't understand how an unknown can be a LAG--he is unknown. I guess a LAG by stats and no other reads. I have noticed a lot of LAGs do the obligatory pre-flop cap with total junk like Ax. It's [censored] up. This makes me want to get to showdown. So I guess post-flop, I'd be /call/call/call/. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Folding on the flop would be really bad since were closing the action. Esp with our backdoor draw. 2. I didnt say (at least didnt mean to say) the unknown was LAG. The second part was hypothetical... Like how would my play differ if he was a LAG. I asked this because as the session went on I could tell he was very laggish. However when this hand came up I had no idea. |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
If villain turns over KK after he bets the flop I still call. Folding this flop is pretty crazy @ 14:1 with up to 7.5 outs (although more likely 4-5)..
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