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empire 55r JJ facing raise
villain in this hand had been about average in terms of pre-flop raising. probably 50 left, 20 cash. i've been opening more than my share, but have mostly been getting away with it.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter MP3 (t23462) CO (t14469) Button (t5518) SB (t10515) BB (t11977) UTG (t5424) UTG+1 (t6590) MP1 (t17125) Hero (t11130) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1100</font>, Hero edit: punch up subject |
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Re: empire 55r
Pop to 3500 call a push.
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Re: empire 55r
Yuck. "JJ is not the nuts, JJ is not the nuts, JJ is not the nuts."
I don't like a re-raise, simply because a three-bet will make your tummy hurt. Shorter it's an easy push, taller you can re-raise and see what happens, but in this case, I think I call and take a flop. If I flop an overpair I probably come over the top of many c-bets. If he's on a bigger overpair, well that's life. But I overplay pockets way too much. |
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Re: empire 55r
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Yuck. "JJ is not the nuts, JJ is not the nuts, JJ is not the nuts." [/ QUOTE ] Neither is KK or QQ or AK. You don't win tournaments by sitting around waiting for the nuts. A double up is huge here. |
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Re: empire 55r JJ facing raise
I love taking a flop in this spot. He is in a real crappy position, and he will likely be C-betting any flop. When he bets the flop I'm probably only giving up if its ace high. Even king or queen high I may still be willing to go broke.
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Re: empire 55r JJ facing raise
ok, i called.
MP3 (t23462) SB (t10515) 9415 left MP1 (t17125) 16025 Hero (t11130) 10030 Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1100</font>, Hero calls t1100, MP3 calls t1100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t900, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (t4800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero |
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Re: empire 55r
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[ QUOTE ] Yuck. "JJ is not the nuts, JJ is not the nuts, JJ is not the nuts." [/ QUOTE ] Neither is KK or QQ or AK. You don't win tournaments by sitting around waiting for the nuts. A double up is huge here. [/ QUOTE ] I agree completely, but facing a raise JJ is significantly worse than KK, and more than a little worse than QQ. If we put the EP raiser on a pretty tight range, there are eighteen combinations that have us crushed (AA-QQ), and twenty-four with which we are a coin-flip (AK-AQ), and a few more that we have crushed (AJ, 99-TT). Compare these numbers with QQ, KK and AK. Just my two cents, but I think JJ is a whole lot closer to TT than QQ. |
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Re: empire 55r JJ facing raise
I'd bet 2400 and fold if MP3 or SB pushes, but call if MP1 pushes.
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Re: empire 55r JJ facing raise
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I'd bet 2400 and fold if MP3 or SB pushes, but call if MP1 pushes. [/ QUOTE ] Why call MP1's push? OP, just wanted to compliment you on posting two hands that are really tough, IMHO. |
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Re: empire 55r JJ facing raise
Because he's not checking any reasonable hand into 3 players after one has already checked. If he check raised all in on us, I'd expect to see a lower pair quite often.
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