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2 hands, advice please
Hand 1) 9-handed
Table is pretty loose passive. Flop % is about 50. Hero is dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button. Preflop : UTG calls, 2 folds, 3 calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks. Flop : (7SB) K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue"> (7 Players) </font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red"> UTG Bets </font> , 3 calls, Hero??? I didn't feel I could protect my hand here or on the turn for that matter. Is this just a simple value raise? Hand 2) Same table, same players, also 9-handed. SB had raised in the BB with 99's in an unraised pot with 4 or 5 limpers earlier. Does anyone raise hero's hand preflop? Hero is dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Preflop : UTG calls, 1 fold, 2 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="red"> SB raises </font> , BB calls. Flop (14 SB) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue"> (7 players) </font> <font color="red">SB bets </font> , 2 calls, 1 fold, 1 call, Hero calls, Button folds. Turn : (12 BB) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">5 players </font> <font color="red"> SB bets </font> , 3 calls, Hero??? I need to work on my play with overcards. Is the pot far too big to fold here? Thanks for reading. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
Raise hand 1. If he's position aware then he likely would have raised preflop if he had a King, and since he didn't I smell a flush or straight value bet. If he's not position aware then his hand range is larger and you're still likely ahead. Raise to hopefully show the blinds the door.
Hand 2: Raise KQs preflop from any position. Hell, raise KQo from any position preflop. Flop peel is okay--I don't think a continuation raise is going to do any good. No reason to see the river imo. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
*grunch*
hand 1: Raise preflop please! I'd also raise the flop. Remember, we have position and kicking out 2 others is a good idea Hand 2: Easy raise PF, I'd raise this hand in every position. Hand plays differently if you did. Assuming SB still raised pf, I would have c/c and c/f the turn when it missed. Crovax |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
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*grunch* hand 1: Raise preflop please! [/ QUOTE ] 4 limpers and you raise KTo OTB? That's going to need some justification if you read the action correctly. Edit: you might find this thread interesting. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
I just raise the flop in hand 1. We probably have the best hand and will be giving the field 5:1 odds with the prospect of further action.
Hand 2 is an easy pf raise. I don't mind the flop call with only one player to act behind you. When you don't improve and SB leads again after getting 4 calls on the flop you have to think you're drawing slim most of the time, but we only need 3 clean outs and there are a number of hands SB could have that we beat. The other opponents could be on all sorts of things. I'd consider making a loose call due to the pot size but don't feel like going though hand combinations just now to see how close to correct it is. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
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4 limpers and you raise KTo OTB? That's going to need some justification if you read the action correctly [/ QUOTE ] I think you misread the hand. One limper on a loose table, this raise should be standard. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
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[ QUOTE ] 4 limpers and you raise KTo OTB? That's going to need some justification if you read the action correctly [/ QUOTE ] I think you misread the hand. One limper on a loose table, this raise should be standard. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] UTG calls, 2 folds, 3 calls, Hero calls [/ QUOTE ] This is not UTG limping, player 2 folding and player 3 calling. UTG, MP1, MP2 and the cutoff limped. 4 limpers. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4 limpers and you raise KTo OTB? That's going to need some justification if you read the action correctly [/ QUOTE ] I think you misread the hand. One limper on a loose table, this raise should be standard. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] UTG calls, 2 folds, 3 calls, Hero calls [/ QUOTE ] This is not UTG limping, player 2 folding and player 3 calling. UTG, MP1, MP2 and the cutoff limped. 4 limpers. [/ QUOTE ] Ah, I did misread it. Then that's an easy limp. I still stand by the raise on the flop. Crovax |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
Bonesy-
Yes, the flop raise in hand 1 is an easy rasie for value. Don't worry about protecting your hand here, you can't. Hand 2 is a super EZ pf raise for value. Super easy, your hand is awesome in the face of all those loose limpers. Folding on the turn is ok though. |
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Re: 2 hands, advice please
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Folding on the turn is ok though. [/ QUOTE ] Really? We're getting 12:1 closing the action, surely our overcards are worth at least 3~4 outs? |
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