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View Poll Results: Group 3 - Four vs. Nine | |||
National Lampoon's Vacation (9) | 58 | 25.66% | |
Office Space (4) | 168 | 74.34% | |
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AKo in a tough spot on the FLOP
party 2/4. I've been at this table for a while, but the villains are new. The table has been tightening up in general though, and the vpip has been steadily dropping overall.
Neither villain has shown himself to be a maniac so far. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls. Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero... first off, I think I'm a dog to the combined range of the two villains. Of the two, I'm more likely to be behind the CO though, as UTG+2 may have looked for an excuse to call two given how far in he was. |
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Re: AKo in a tough spot on the FLOP
Call. I hate raising because you're pushing out CO ~never. Pot too big to fold.
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Re: AKo in a tough spot on the FLOP
how many outs do you estimate that we have if we're behind?
How often do you think we're behind here? |
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Re: AKo in a tough spot on the FLOP
I think Im folding.
First off, I hate the CO cap so I either have the same hand as him or he has me beat on the flop. If he has AA-JJ, then he has me hurt on the flop and will almost certainly be raised. I dont want to get trapped in between these two players for mutliple bets on the flop. |
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Re: AKo in a tough spot on the FLOP
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how many outs do you estimate that we have if we're behind? How often do you think we're behind here? [/ QUOTE ] I'm putting atleast one of UTG+2 or CO on a big pocket pair. TT+ so at max, we have 6 outs. It's a big pot so I would love to see the next card but keep in mind that CO capped preflop. So if you call what will you do if CO raise and UTG 3 bet? Is it worth it then even if the pot is big? I probably fold because of the action that was shown preflop. |
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Re: AKo in a tough spot on the FLOP
I would say we're behind pretty much always.
It's almost impossible to estimate outs without reads or further flop action, but as long as one of them doesn't have AA we have odds to call, so I'm not folding until it's 2 back to me. To raise, it seems you have to hope for a dream parlay - ie - CO has to have AK and lay it down, and UTG+2 has to have a hand that doesn't crush us, such as TT-QQ. I don't know how often this is the case. |
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