Split the NL forums again?

[BobboFitos]

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As far as this forum is concerned, 100/200 and 200/400 can effectively be ignored.

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ok, i'll start posting my hu 100/200 hands guys

[evil_twin]

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I agree that 5/10 is not high stakes, but advice that is suitable for that game cannot be found in SSNL. The mid forum could probably consist of 2-4 -> 5/10 in my opinion

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I agree. I play 3-6 and 5-10, and sometimes a bit of 2-4. Posting 2-4 hands in small stakes doesn't seem right, nor does posting my 3-6 hands in this forum. A middle ground seems sane to me, 10-20 and above are a very different game to the one I play.

[Rococo]

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The messages from the vast majority of those in favor of splitting the forum can be translated as follows:

"Is there any way to create a high stakes forum that is limited to me and the 10-15 posters that are worthy of my attention. After all, I'm a busy guy and a damn expert poker player, and I can't take the time to wade through all the riff-raff."

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You didn't really read this thread at all, did you? I'm not asking for Matt Flynn to moderate and El Diablo to have the most posts - I'm asking for a Mid Stakes forum for .5/1 - 3/6 NL players, where they can post hands without the beginners coming in and recommending weak-tight strategies, or the condescending posts from the 10/20 types that say 'Wrong forum'.

As an addendum to soah's nice explanation of mid stakes - I want a forum for Mid players where firing two barrel bluffs isn't instantly viewed as chip-spewing. Where meta-game has *some* importance.

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Many of the people advocating a split are not "mid" players. They are 10-20 players that want an easy way to screen out the "mid" players. If you think that the best posters on the mid-high board will even bother reading a "mid-stakes" exclusive board, you are mistaken.

[edge]

I say we make High 5/10 and up because I play 5/10 at least half of the time and I would like to consider myself among the elite posters on the best NL board. If the split is at 10/20 my ego will be horribly bruised and I will probably cry a lot.

[BobboFitos]

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I say we make High 5/10 and up because I play 5/10 at least half of the time and I would like to consider myself among the elite posters on the best NL board. If the split is at 10/20 my ego will be horribly bruised and I will probably cry a lot.

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[tagtastic]

I vote for 4 forums:

1) Small & Micro Stakes (anything below 1/2)
2) Medium Stakes (1/2 - 4/8)
3) High Stakes (5/10 - 25/50)
4) Ultra-High Stakes (50/100 and up)

Ultra-High Stakes would be designed to "sparce" - perhaps it would encourage those players here who can afford those stakes to post more hands if it was tightly moderated and filled mostly with content. This might help rid the high stakes of the "omg look at this huge low-content hand" posts as well.

[Hattifnatt]

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Small NL: .5/1 and lower (and 1/2 live games?)
Mid NL: 1/2 - 3/6
High NL: 5/10 and above

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This sounds great... I am often sort of lost in the high stakes forum but on the 0.5/1 and lower hands in the small stakes forum I have not much of an interest.

[Marlow]

So how does this sort of thing come to pass? Do we sign a petition or sumpin'?

[bkholdem]

The need for further seperation of forums is evident in a post I read in the small stakes forum a little while back. Maybe someone remembers and can post a link(S).

A high stakes player was/is trying to 'give back' by helping low limit players. He posted some idea's and indicated that he would post different ideas from time to time toward this end.

Well, as I'm reading the thread I'm seeing low limit players posting ABC replies as to why they disagree with what he is saying or saying things like "that is standard." While everything he posted might not have been revolutionary to all of the readers, him taking the time to post in the low stakes was admirable IMO and should have been met with thanks and praise.

If there was a mid stakes forum, as there most certainly should be, for players beyond basic, rigid starting hand theory, ABC poker and defensive/weak-tight strategies, his presence would have been received much differently, IMO. It was as if the players were clueless IMO, trying to show each other they are good players by posting 'this is standard' while they were oblivious to the potential this poster could bring to the board. They were so caught up in their abc stuff that they were conveying a certain amount of distain to this poster, imo.

His posts would most certainly be welcome, and appreciated, in a mid stakes forum. His presence and value was above the heads of the average posters in the small stakes forum.

I think it was soah who posted the reasoning behind why there needs to be separation of the forums and do not understand how anyone could pick apart his reasoning to demonstrate why it doesn't make sense. I could care less where 5/10 players post, that isn't the point. But right now there is NO BRIDGE from small stakes ABC no limit to higher levels of no limit poker. In a place as big and as highly respected as 2+2 this doesn't make sense to me.

I think there is a clear need for separation. If 90%+ of the separation takes place by dividing the small stakes into small and mid, or micro/small/mid that is fine with me. Maybe this is better suited to the small stakes forum.
If it is, maybe someone in this forum could provide some direction as to how players in the transition phase from ABC to well rounded player could go about facilitating further division of the forums.

[beset7]

nothing personal but I just feel the unjustifable need to say that I have been amused repeatedly over the last few weeks how seriously people take this internet forum stuff. I too favor a forum split but does it really matter that much? That is all.