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Wuss on the river? (5/10 euro stud)
First off, sorry for the formatting but this is not a supported site. Am I missing bets here on the river or is this standard? I have no read on the player.
Game #1332518103: 7 Card FL (€5/€10) - 2005/11/15 - 17:06:31 (ET) Table "Ellis" Seat 1: Player 1 (€535 in chips) Seat 3: Player 2 (€250.25 in chips) Seat 4: Hero (€200 in chips) Seat 5: Player 3 (€504 in chips) Seat 6: Player 4 (€119.75 in chips) Seat 7: Player 5 (€123.96 in chips) Seat 8: Player 6 (€396.50 in chips) Player 6: posts the ante €0.50 Player 1: posts the ante €0.50 Player 4: posts the ante €0.50 Player 5: posts the ante €0.50 Player 3: posts the ante €0.50 Hero: posts the ante €0.50 Player 2: posts the ante €0.50 ----- 3rd STREET ----- dealt to Player 1 [6h] dealt to Player 2 [Jh] dealt to Hero [Kh Jd Kd] dealt to Player 3 [Th] dealt to Player 4 [3h] dealt to Player 5 [Qd] dealt to Player 6 [Ah] Player 4: brings-in €2 Player 5: folds Player 6: calls €2 Player 1: calls €2 Player 2: folds Hero: raises €5 Player 3: calls €5 Player 4: calls €3 Player 6: calls €3 Player 1: calls €3 ----- 4th STREET ----- dealt to Player 1 [6h][4d] dealt to Hero [Kh Jd Kd][6s] dealt to Player 3 [Th][5s] dealt to Player 4 [3h][5h] dealt to Player 6 [Ah][4s] Player 6: checks Player 1: checks Hero: bets €5 Player 3: calls €5 Player 4: folds Player 6: calls €5 Player 1: calls €5 ----- 5th STREET ----- dealt to Player 1 [6h 4d][9d] dealt to Hero [Kh Jd Kd 6s][Js] dealt to Player 3 [Th 5s][Jc] dealt to Player 6 [Ah 4s][5d] Player 6: checks Player 1: checks Hero: bets €10 Player 3: folds Player 6: folds Player 1: calls €10 ----- 6th STREET ----- dealt to Player 1 [6h 4d 9d][8h] dealt to Hero [Kh Jd Kd 6s Js][Ad] Hero: bets €10 Player 1: calls €10 ----- RIVER ----- dealt to Hero [Kh Jd Kd 6s Js Ad][6d] Hero: checks Player 1: checks ----- SHOW DOWN ----- Hero: shows [Kh Kd Jd Js Ad 6d 6s] (Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks, Ace high) Player 1: mucks hand Hero collected €85.50 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot €88.50 Main pot €85.50 Rake €3 Seat 1: Player 1 mucked Seat 3: Player 2 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 4: Hero showed [Kh Kd Jd Js Ad 6d 6s] and won (€85.50) with Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks, Ace high Seat 5: Player 3 folded on the 5th Street Seat 6: Player 4 folded on the 4th Street Seat 7: Player 5 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 8: Player 6 folded on the 5th Street |
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Re: Wuss on the river? (5/10 euro stud)
with his board, I bet the river. you might get a call from a smaller 2 pair.
- Mac |
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Re: Wuss on the river? (5/10 euro stud)
Can't see an obvious drawing hand to put him on, so fire away.
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Re: Wuss on the river? (5/10 euro stud)
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Can't see an obvious drawing hand to put him on, so fire away. [/ QUOTE ] well the only obvious thing I can see is some middling straight draw which he will most likely raise if he catches and fold if he doesn't. There comes the question I guess...what % of the time do you put someone like this on a lower 2 pair that will pay off and what % are they drawing and will pop it when they hit. Also, I think you have to call down the raise here so you are potentially putting an extra bet at risk |
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Re: Wuss on the river? (5/10 euro stud)
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[ QUOTE ] Can't see an obvious drawing hand to put him on, so fire away. [/ QUOTE ] well the only obvious thing I can see is some middling straight draw which he will most likely raise if he catches and fold if he doesn't. There comes the question I guess...what % of the time do you put someone like this on a lower 2 pair that will pay off and what % are they drawing and will pop it when they hit. Also, I think you have to call down the raise here so you are potentially putting an extra bet at risk [/ QUOTE ] The diamonds are dead, so you probably aren't running into a flush on the river. It looks like he could have had 57 in the hole for a OESD on 4th, but he would have made it on 6th and most likely popped you. So his most likely hand going into the river is probably just a medium pair (and maybe 2 pair, but he probably would have raised 6th with that). Unless he has 67 in the hole, any str8 draw he has would just be a gutshot, so you are not that worried about getting raised (which you would have to call against an unknown opponent). Therefore, I'd say about 80% he will just have 1 or 2 pair on the river. He will always pay you off with 2 pair, and occasionally with one pair. You are only risking ONE bet by betting (namely the raise), because you were planning on checking and calling anyway. With all that being said, I would bet this on the river everytime against an unknown opponent. Regards, Carlos |
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