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Old 11-14-2005, 03:00 PM
daryn daryn is offline
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy

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The whole thing smacks of Stockholm Syndrome a little to me, in that the people must have known what was going on was wrong but adapted their thinking to it until it they were in their own little world where it wasn't outrageous to think it was right.

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if that's what youre describing as the stockhom syndrome, it's actually something different. stockholm syndrome is when the captured starts to sympathize w/ the captors.

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I think he might have been referring to a Stanford Prison Experiment-like situation. maybe?

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or was he referring to stanford wong's highly touted blackjack strategy?

will we never know??
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:03 PM
tpir90036 tpir90036 is offline
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy (sic)

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(Please don't tell me that bj's are illegal over there!)

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Technically they are in some states:
http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usa.htm

Although it's not like cops are out to arrest you for it unless you are a gay man in Texas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default long article about this thing

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...WS01/510090392

with other stories of similar things
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy (sic)

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(Please don't tell me that bj's are illegal over there!)

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Technically they are in some states:
http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usa.htm

Although it's not like cops are out to arrest you for it unless you are a gay man in Texas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

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I like Americans right? But...


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy

This is actually extremely sad - the psyhcological effects on the girl are likely to be devastating. You should really be ashamed at yourself for finding this in the least beat amusing.











I know I am. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:08 PM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy

I would pay good money for a copy of the transcript because I cant mentaly fill in the following blank:

Man "The guy on the phone says you have to suck my dick."
Girl "................................................. .."
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy

I know what it is, but what I meant to convey was that you buy into identifying with your captors as part of a process of buying into the legitimacy of your captivity as a whole, and this seems like it might have had some part to play in the incident at hand. It's more than just identifying with your captor, and you can't do that without a whole lot of other things happening mentally too that are very much a part of it.

That's why I was saying it wasn't exactly the same mechanism as the small part of behavior in a complex situation that Stockholm syndrome describes, but smacked of the same sort of mental gymnastics that people in captive situations go through, legitimizing their captivity to make it less terrifying and feel less helpless and violated. They go from disempowerment to a false empowerment, gaining control by the simple expedients of denial and brainwashing themselves. It seems likely something like this had to happen during at least part of this three hour long incident to enable otherwise rational people to do things so entirely stupid, debasing, and extraordinary.

Unfortunately, that explanation is so complicated that it's clear I shouldn't have tried to extend a well known but very limited term to talk about the psychological things behind it in the first place, and their arguable relationship to the behavior in this incident. I was pretty much asking for trouble, or at least uncertainty, on that one.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:09 PM
EMcWilliams EMcWilliams is offline
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Default Re: McDonalds employees set world record for idiotcy

As a former manager, That is a sad but true fact

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I worked at McDonalds when I was 16 and if I remember correctly the janitors were top of the food chain so to speak. They got paid more than the store manager on a per hour basis.

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Old 11-14-2005, 03:10 PM
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I really wish I could hear what the guy on the phone was saying, and how he could have possibly justified some of the actions to the others on the phone.

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"I'm a cop you IDIOT!"
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:10 PM
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I would pay good money for a copy of the transcript because I cant mentaly fill in the following blank:

Man "The guy on the phone says you have to suck my dick."
Girl "...that will be another 10 million "

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