Stupid Bellagio

[MicroBob]

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their staff is often times not very friendly at all, and it's quite obvious that since they don't need your business, they're not going to bend over backwards very far for you (unless maybe you're one of their cronies who grease the right wheels). This is not only my personal experience, but the sentiment of many of my poker friends and acquaintances. Whether this is an "absolute truth" or not is debatable, but it's certainly a common perception amongst frequent vegas card players.

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I'm not a 'frequent' Vegas card player.
I've been to Vegas once...the 2005 WSOP.
Was there for 2 weeks...and played at the Bellagio 4 or 5 different times.


I knew virtually nothing about the Bellagio except that it's a big room and I should play there (had not read ANYTHING about the staff or any such threads since I'm not in Vegas).

Even not knowing ANYTHING about their reputation ahead of time...this is exactly the impression they left me with.


I left thinking, "wow. extremely rude staff...and I can't believe they would design the room in such a way that so many players would get their chair bumper and twisted around all night long."

Later did I learn that everyone else seems to feel this way about the staff too. until reading some threads here I considered the possibility that it was just because of the hyper-crowded conditions with the WSOP in town leading to an over-stressed staff. But my hunch was that they were probably pricks year-round...not just during WSOP-time.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Can you elaborate on the reasoning (even if it's faulty) for PLAYERS wanting a must move system? I don't understand why any player would prefer the must move system since the main game is always awful (as already stated).

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Day time nits can't see the forest from the trees so there is no good reason except they can't stand being in a game with an empty seat.

Another advantage of not using must moves (or using them as little as possible, taking them off ASAP) is that the game that usually breaks first is the worst game, meaning the quality of the games overall improves.

~ Rick

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Masquerade:

First off Nate is not a shift manager. Second, I'm not sure who was on that night.

Best wishes,
Mason

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi TStone:

I understood that the game requested was a $10-$20 mixed game and not a $4-$8.

The Bellagio is concious of not spreading certain limit games because they feel, and I agree, that it can damage some of the games at other close limits that they regularly spread. However, I don't thin a $10-$20 mixed game would have this effect.

The Wynn is now spreading it and if it does get popular there, I wouldn't be surprised to see The Bellagio having it at some time in the future. However, it doesn't go all the time at The Wynn, so I wouldn't hold your breath (so to speak).

Best wishes,
Mason

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Cowboy:

maybe they're just giving you back a little bit of your money so you'll have enough to come back for the next magoofest. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

best wishes,
mason

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Larry:

While I agree with you that The Wynn will spread any game any limit, it's also one of the reasons why their room has not done as well as it should. We have had much discussion on this topic before,

best wishes,
mason

[PokerBob]

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not that this is directly related to the post, but i must thank the 2+2 crew for putting all the Bellagio regulars on long-term tilt after the magoofest weekend. i am still here and getting absolutely no respect at 30/60 from a number of them who see me as 'one of the kids that raises preflop all the f'n time' to quote one [censored] correctly. i'm sure i owe many of you a drink, stheif in particular...

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well, Josh did take the most hideous live beat i have ever seen in that game.......besides, Josh is much more fun after 10 drinks, not just one.

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Junior:

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1. Their daisy-chained triple+ must-move game system sucks majorly,

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I agree completely. I've talked to some of the management there about how bad must moves are but it doesn't do any good. Part of the problem is that some of the regular players insist on having must move.

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4. (and this is the big one folks) their staff is often times not very friendly at all, and it's quite obvious that since they don't need your business, they're not going to bend over backwards very far for you (unless maybe you're one of their cronies who grease the right wheels). This is not only my personal experience, but the sentiment of many of my poker friends and acquaintances. Whether this is an "absolute truth" or not is debatable, but it's certainly a common perception amongst frequent vegas card players.


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I don't agree with this. But I'm playing higher limit than you are and so I'm dealing with different staff members than you are.

Best wishes,
Mason

[TheMetetron]

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I don't agree with this. But I'm playing higher limit than you are and so I'm dealing with different staff members than you are.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Mason,

How high are you talking? Even when I was playing $80/$160 there they were pretty big douchebags to me. I know some of the other guys who play in that game have had different results and my sample size is admittedly small (they are, however, always assholes to me at $30/60 without fail).

[TStoneMBD]

if the floor is treating you well its probably because youre mason malmuth just as they wouldnt treat phil ivey with disrespect.