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CR the flop?
Full Tilt .25/.5
i call .5 from UTG with 88. i have $60 folds around to cutoff who raises to 1.25 (has $3 left). Button raises to 2.25 (has $55). sb and bb fold. i call. Flop: Kd2d8s I check,cutoff moves in for about $2 more. Button raises to $5. I reraise to $17. Bad play? should i have not played so fast? my only thought was that i had seen button playing with anything suited and betting on draws in position. |
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Re: CR the flop?
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Full Tilt .25/.5 i call .5 from UTG with 88. i have $60 folds around to cutoff who raises to 1.25 (has $3 left). Button raises to 2.25 (has $55). sb and bb fold. i call. Flop: Kd2d8s I check,cutoff moves in for about $2 more. Button raises to $5. I reraise to $17. Bad play? should i have not played so fast? my only thought was that i had seen button playing with anything suited and betting on draws in position. [/ QUOTE ] Lead/threebet it instead. |
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Re: CR the flop?
not a bad move if you knew that they were going to bet if you checked.
without reads i would have most likely made a 3/4 - PSB on the flop. |
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Re: CR the flop?
If you know one of the villains will bet the flop, then the c/r is fine. I prefer leading that flop and then 3-betting or pushing (stack-size dependent). I don't think you get much more out of this villain either way.
Your raise gives villain ~2-1 to call so he's only calling with AK which is what his raise indicated. |
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Re: CR the flop?
am i leading out because im OOP with a potential 4 flush out there?
thanks for the advice. also, i planned to CR because because this guy always Pot cbet after PF aggression. |
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Re: CR the flop?
If he often leads he is likely to raise you bet as well, then you get to threebet all in. You also have a shot of trapping the middleman, whereas when you checkraise you almost guaranteed fold him out.
And you don't risk giving a freecard in the unlikely case that he checks, but that's not important. Lead threebet get's more money in, simple as that. EDIT: Stack size matter as well. |
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Re: CR the flop?
am i still leading out if its a flop that likely missed everyone else? but he did reraise PF.
do you always fast play a set like this or is it more case dependent? i understand getting more money in and giving middle man a chance to stay. |
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Re: CR the flop?
Yeah, when you flop a set against a reraiser, you hope they have AA and play it like they do, basically (except you go broke on an A high board [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). The flop is generally a good spot to get money in, but it depends on some variables I guess. When you're in position you have more options.
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Re: CR the flop?
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am i still leading out if its a flop that likely missed everyone else? but he did reraise PF. do you always fast play a set like this or is it more case dependent? i understand getting more money in and giving middle man a chance to stay. [/ QUOTE ] But in this case the middle man is inconsequential because of his stack size. I would have gone for the three-bet. -Gryph |
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Re: CR the flop?
The 2 flush makes the CR risky here and a CR defines your hand more than betting out. Others said if you knew that one of the other players would bet then a CR is OK. I would say unless you are certain to within a very small (1%) margin that one will bet then bet it yourself.
With a set on this board I think you want a diamond draw to play and even push. You have outs to a full if he hits and he has to hit to beat you. Theres no str8 draw and A2s A8s are unlikely epecially if you hold the 8 diamonds. Having checked it and been bet at I think the raise is good. I am weak - ignore my opinion. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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