Learning...

[bambi]

Ok this will go down in history as the best post that has been hijjacked.

I read about half the posts and then thought, these people are really pathetic.

I personally dont care about who is better or why, and how much you make.

Also if somebody think a player is [censored] he is allowed to think that, and he is allowed to post about it, its called free speach.

If you disagree then deal with it, some very smart people arent thinking very clearly here.

[Barry]

It is apparent that this fellow is the epitome of the person that thinks that they already know everything that there is to know and therefore anyone that doesn't agree with him is "retarded". Therefore there is also no point in "helping" him understand.

I have decided that the best approach is...

*** You are ignoring this user ***

[mplspoker]

No they aren't. They are taking everything the wrong way. They take comments about Tommy (which maybe true) personally (for some reason), then try to get in arguements about life (point of life / happiness) when all we are talking about here is how to make a living... Then call me an idiot because i tell them this is a business.. follow the money you'll find who/who isn't successful.... Personally, if this was in person there is not a chance in hell this would even be a long conversation.

In the real world let's say you are a stock broker.. you say I'm making X (spending identical time)... your making 1/2X (spending the same amount of time).. X is either better at his job or smarter, etc. end of story. I know thats blunt, thats the way the world works. I accept the fact that many players are better than me at poker, but don't make excuses for why I'm not making more, etc.... And I don't expect others to either. 90%+ people if had the choice to make more $$ doing the same thing they are doing would do it. The reality is ... some people are capable and some people aren't. A lot aren't actually capable. Everyone here has listened to idiots in poker rooms talk about how they always lose online and win in the casino.. and know in the back of their mind are thinking.. no you just suck at poker, but are able to grind out a small profit against complete retards that are sitting at a live table with you, but when the margin is smaller you will lose your ass...

[Clarkmeister]

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the money you'll find who/who isn't successful

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As others have said, the problem is that you define money=success. I know for a fact that with Tommy, not only does money not equal success, it is so far down the list of priorities as to be insignificant. I don't think anyone is trying to convince you that Tommy is the world's greatest poker player, or even the world's greatest poker coach. All they are saying is that you will be better off in life understanding that others have entirely different life priorities than you do - something you seem to think is impossible.

[ResidentParanoid]

100+ responses and all I can say is,.....**yawn**, .... what were we talking about?

[Justin A]

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the money you'll find who/who isn't successful

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As others have said, the problem is that you define money=success. I know for a fact that with Tommy, not only does money not equal success, it is so far down the list of priorities as to be insignificant. I don't think anyone is trying to convince you that Tommy is the world's greatest poker player, or even the world's greatest poker coach. All they are saying is that you will be better off in life understanding that others have entirely different life priorities than you do - something you seem to think is impossible.

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[BobboFitos]

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a) athletes have individual coaches for varoius things, despite making a lot more money than them. why?

b) really rich people usually have one or more financial advisors despite them obviously having more money than them. why?

c) actors have acting coaches despite them making a lot more money than them. why?

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nic epost cdc

... i wonder who said that first though =)

[hobbsmann]

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You don't have a fnning clue.. 500 bucks an hour.. give me a break... you live in a dream world i live in reality....

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Yes 500/hr. My dad is a Prof. at Caltech (and btw he does what he does because he loves science and not the money being a prof. offers) and routinely gets consulting jobs ranging from $200-500/hr based on the company that hired him.

I feel a lot of posters in this thread are over-reacting to what mplspoker has to say. Although he presents his argument a little harshly I think the point he is making is sound.

We live in a materialistic society. We are taught from a very young age to equate wealth and possesions with success and happiness. It takes a very rare person to break out of this frame of mind in my opinion. Therefore most people try to achieve success through money, or in other words through a high hourly rate. Since most people try to achieve success through an hourly rate than it stands to reasons that the people who don't achieve this rate are not as "successful".

Now I'm not saying that I don't respect people who intentionally take lower earning jobs to increase their happiness. On the contrary I hope to one day be able to do this. But if one were to make a blanket statement about how to find the most succesful people in our society it would make sense to look for people with the most money. It's easy to see that Bill Gates is a very successful person. It's harder to see that a farmer living solely off their crops with no other income is as successful. Even though the latter may be happier.

How this relates to Tommy I don't really know, since I have no idea who he really is. Although I will say that it seems logical to me that someone would opt to play live poker at a reduced earning rather than play online. Live poker just seems like a more fun/social activity to me.

[Ed Miller]

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