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Re: Miers Withdraws Nomination
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Conservative groups were the ones strongly against Miers, so I don't see how that would make much sense. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that affects the strategy at all. |
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Re: Is there a bigger prag?
I think 0 minutes of fame > 15 minutes of fame. That's why Vanilla Ice is such a prag.
Of course being famous for the long haul would be a mixed blessing. |
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There were never any WMD in Iraq, but Cheney said there were. [/ QUOTE ] Well that's certainly not the case... |
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[ QUOTE ] There were never any WMD in Iraq, but Cheney said there were. [/ QUOTE ] Well that's certainly not the case... [/ QUOTE ] In August, 2002 Dick Cheney said: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." My source? The White House. Here's a link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20020826.html If you want to hear it yourself, here's a link: http://www.apfn.org/audio/Cheney_WMD_claim.mp3 |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There were never any WMD in Iraq, but Cheney said there were. [/ QUOTE ] Well that's certainly not the case... [/ QUOTE ] In August, 2002 Dick Cheney said: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." My source? The White House. Here's a link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20020826.html If you want to hear it yourself, here's a link: http://www.apfn.org/audio/Cheney_WMD_claim.mp3 [/ QUOTE ] True but you can't say he never had them. We gave him some in the 80s and he used them, lol. Sanctions and inspections seem to have been effective though, and he did not have them by 2000. Sure Democrats said he had them in 2002 as well as the Bushies, but it was the administration that presented dubious evidence as fact and led us to war unfaithfully. Sadly, dems, moderates, and even myself paroted these same claims and even believed he probably had weapons. The Bush crew gave us distorted information. To this day, with the core administation as secret as it is, we still can't be sure of their actual reason for pushing this war thorugh under the cloak of an imminient threat. |
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There were never any WMD in Iraq. [/ QUOTE ] Really? At any time? I'm gonna give you a quick chance to retract that before I slap you with reality. |
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[ QUOTE ] There were never any WMD in Iraq. [/ QUOTE ] Really? At any time? I'm gonna give you a quick chance to retract that before I slap you with reality. [/ QUOTE ] Fine. To satisfy the nits: There were never any WMD in Iraq when Cheney said there were. FMP But, to repeat, the important point is: [ QUOTE ] In August, 2002 Dick Cheney said: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." My source? The White House. Here's a link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20020826.html If you want to hear it yourself, here's a link: http://www.apfn.org/audio/Cheney_WMD_claim.mp3<br /> [/ QUOTE ] Go ahead and slap me all you want. Cheney lied. And that's the truth. |
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Janice Rogers Brown! [/ QUOTE ] This would swing me right back around into the Bush camp. But what do you think the chances are she gets nominated? 20% at best? |
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Re: Miers Withdraws Nomination
I'm going to give you another chance to correct yourself.
First I'm going to give you the definition of lie: A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression. So for Cheney to lie, he would have to know there were no WMDs in Iraq. OR he would have to, based on the evidence presented to him have a very strong argument. Similarly, other administrations have come up with the same argument that there were WMDs in Iraq. So either everyone is lying or our intelligence was simply wrong. It could have been through incompetence, it could have been through completely making things up, or it could have been through using sources that made up things for their own purposes. That's why perjury is so hard to prove. There is quite a difference between being dead wrong and lying. |
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Re: Miers Withdraws Nomination
Luttig would be filibustered...several Dems have already stated that a nominee in the mold of Luttig/Scalia would end the filibuster truce.
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