Aces and queens against an allin, what would you do? - Page 2

Shammu · #11 10-26-2005, 04:32 PM

I don't know for sure, but let's see what is his range? I don't see him having AK, the reason is I know how he plays, he would not limp in with that, he could have 88, 33 or j10. I don't see him going all in with any other cards.

Black Aces 518 · #12 10-26-2005, 04:33 PM

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And have him lay it down? if you knew he was on a gut shot, wouldn't you want him to call here?

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Do you know he's on a gutshot?

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Exactly. What if he is on AK? Then you lost the pot on the river, yes. But think how many other cards could come that he still trails you but may be reluctant to call a big bet from you (Q, club, maybe J or T). Then you lost the chance to bust him.

I am folding the river because there is nothing a tight player limps UTG and pushes this river that you beat. Nada.

scott8 · #13 10-26-2005, 04:34 PM

So he is a tight player, but would limp utg with 33 or JT?

Shammu · #14 10-26-2005, 04:37 PM

Ok, I may have mis said that, he has a wider starting hand range than a tight player but he would not risk his chips unless he has a hand.

Exitonly · #15 10-26-2005, 04:38 PM

well then bet out a decent amount and hope has a hand and check raises you.

phage · #16 10-26-2005, 04:40 PM

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I don't see him having AK, the reason is I know how he plays, he would not limp in with that, he could have 88, 33 or j10. I don't see him going all in with any other cards.

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Even knowing how he plays, how certain are you that he doesn't have AK. Moreover JT doesn't seem like somethink he would have if he is tight.

scott8 · #17 10-26-2005, 04:40 PM

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Ok, I may have mis said that, he has a wider starting hand range than a tight player but he would not risk his chips unless he has a hand.

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Then you fold. And by the way I bet this flop.

Shammu · #18 10-26-2005, 04:43 PM

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Ok, I may have mis said that, he has a wider starting hand range than a tight player but he would not risk his chips unless he has a hand.

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Then you fold. And by the way I bet this flop.

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You are right, I shoulda bet the flop but his check dark confused me so I decided to check behind.

Shammu · #19 10-26-2005, 04:52 PM

Well, I thought about it for about two minutes then I told him that I know he has the j10 and I showed him my hand and folded and he was kind enough to show his straight. Not betting the flop made me lose that hand, good lesson I guess. There can be a fine line between slowplaying and butchering a hand I guess.