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Old 10-03-2005, 06:05 PM
alul alul is offline
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Default 88 hand

3/6 live game 9-handed. Nice table, very loose and passive, except EP1 and MP1 who are also loose but can once in a while get tricky and/or aggressive. Usually 6-8 players to the flop, everybody is chasing anything.

I have 88 UTG.

I call, EP1 calls, EP2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 players call, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop AA2 (rainbow).
BB checks, I bet, EP1 calls, MP1 calls, rest fold.

Turn 3 (no flush draw possible)
I bet, EP1 calls, MP1 folds.

River 3
I...

What would you do?
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Old 10-03-2005, 10:47 PM
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Based on where you've gotten yourself, I check-call, for a number of reasons. I'm assuming you're in a B&M game, my thinking here doesn't apply to online play. I've found BM 3-6 players tend to play fairly mechanically. If someone's holding the ace, about 90 percent will call the turn, and raise the river. Very few will wait for the river to hit the raise. If no one's raised on the turn, I've got to put EP1 on a pair, anywhere from 22-TT (excluding 8s). I like the check on the river, because it may induce EP1 to bet with a weaker pair or a king kicker. If EP1 is playing a bigger pair or slow playing an ace, you're only out one more bet. My guess is you are about a 4-1 favorite on the river, so your check-call may get you one more bet than leading into the pot here.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: 88 hand

I bet, he calls with 34 and MHING. But was there a better way to play this hand?
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:26 PM
SeaEagle SeaEagle is offline
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Default Re: 88 hand

I think you played it fine before the river.

On the river, I'd bet/fold. When nobody raised you on the turn you have to assume you're ahead. The 3 is scary but if you check he'll bet his better hands (and you'll have to call) but he'll check his worse hands - so checking costs you the same when you're behind but wins you less when you're ahead.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:27 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default Re: 88 hand

Bet. (And raise pre-flop.)
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:11 PM
onegymrat onegymrat is offline
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Default Re: 88 hand

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Bet. (And raise pre-flop.)

[/ QUOTE ]I think that it would be a mistake to raise preflop with this type of table. You are not going to eliminate many. You are out of position with seven overcards. You're really going to need a great flop to play on. The hand is too good to fold, so limping should be just fine.

To OP, Check-call the river. You can't put these types of people on a hand, especially if they have a tendency to be tricky.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:24 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: 88 hand

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(And raise pre-flop.)

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raising 88 and lower isn't standard and will hardly make a difference in your results if you do or don't.

saying it so matter-of-factly probably isnt a good idea as he may get the wrong impression about hands and cause him to misplay in the future.
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