25PL - Tough AA Hand

maybedinero · #1 09-20-2005, 03:44 PM

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP2 ($27.75)
MP3 ($4.85)
CO ($33.89)
Button ($28.25)
Hero ($47.05)
BB ($34.50)
UTG ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($44.32)
UTG+2 ($20.95)
MP1 ($7)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.5, UTG+2 calls $0.50, 4 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) raises to $1.9, BB calls $1.75, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $1.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($7) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $8, UTG+2 folds

Now what?

Details of BB: 27.59 VPIP, 5.75%PFR, Agg. Factor 4.56

wdeadwyler · #2 09-20-2005, 04:01 PM

ez fold, way behind of tiny bit ahead of his hand range. Toss it in the muck (or the virtual muck).

1C5 · #3 09-20-2005, 04:40 PM

Easy fold??? At the PL 25? You think he is going to raise to $8 with a made flush? I put him on AK with maybe 1 heart and do not fold. Up to you to call or reraise...

element00 · #4 09-20-2005, 07:50 PM

push all in imo.

orange · #5 09-20-2005, 07:55 PM

How about calling, then re-evaluating the turn? I usually push a blank turn hard, and c/f a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

maybedinero · #6 09-20-2005, 07:58 PM

Hmm, yeah. That's what I did (in response to element00). My read was the same as 1C5's--most likely holding AK, probably with 1 heart, putting me ahead by about 56 to 44:

The rest of the hand:

Hero raises to $30.65, BB calls $24.50 (All-In), Hero calls $1.85.

Turn: ($72) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($72) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $72

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac As (one pair, aces).
BB has Ks Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: BB wins $72.

DyessMan89 · #7 09-20-2005, 08:01 PM

Preflop, Im raising much more than this. With a min-raise and 2 callers, your not getting the most value out of your hand raising to only 1.9. Im raising this to around 3.50.

On the flop, how it went down, Its a tough decision. The problem is if you raise him you are commiting yourself to calling if he re-raises you, due to his stack size AND your stack size. After thinking about it, call me weak-tight all you want, but Im laying this down.

Edit- Tough beat. It did seem like A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] was a strong possiblity. I still stick to my decision, though.

maybedinero · #8 09-20-2005, 08:02 PM

Dyess--it's pot limit.

DyessMan89 · #9 09-20-2005, 08:04 PM

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Dyess--it's pot limit.

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Pot-Limit Shmot-Limit, who plays that?

#10 09-20-2005, 11:04 PM

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Dyess--it's pot limit.

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Pot-Limit Shmot-Limit, who plays that?

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People who want to beat worse players for a bigger rate than probably any other form of hold'em.

dinero, couple of things.
1) You're in the SB - worst position possible. You should look at the idea of check-raising more from the front.
2) In any case, your hand is quite weak here. Just a pair, no heart and you want to push against a raise???

You're 57% against a pair with flush draw, and a dog to 2 pair or a set. Against a flush, you're destroyed. You'd have to believe that you're against the pair/flush-draw(or worse hands) the vast majority of the time to push here - and that's still a small edge.
If he has the flush even 15% of the time, that's enough to make it a losing play, especially if he has 2pair/set some of the other 85%.

Give some credit for the raise. Fold or else follow orange's advice.