Advice needed

I need advice.

Over the past two days (9 hours playing time total), I have lost over 100BB at 3-6 Limit games on a Party skin site. I need help in identifying what is happening. Some background:

I play two tables at a time and have no problem managing the action between them (two monitors).

In these particular sessions, I put money in the pot 19-20%, my pre-flop raise average was 9-10%, and my post-flop aggression was right at 4% (these were provided by PokerTracker over the 1200+ hands it recorded during this time.)

My starting hands are well in line with any published set, including Abdul's, Skansky's, and Jone's. I do not chase inside straights, I drop the hand at the flop if I don't hit, and don't hold on to AK if I don't hit.

Over these sessions at Party, I was drawn out on repeatedly, with no indication, i.e.: no raising, re-raising. Top pair, top kicker gets busted by a miracle river; full house beat by bigger full house.

But, mostly the loss was due to playing good starting hands aggressively and then not having the flop or turn improve. I spent about two hours this afternoon going through the sessions and hands in PokerTracker, looking for leaks in my game. What I found was that most - the vast majority - of the hands I lost money on were due to missed flops or drawouts. (I am not saying I played every hand perfectly, but I was very surprised to have PokerTracker verify what I was seeing/feeling during these sessions.

I am at a loss in trying to figure out how I'm supposed to play when hand after hand - remember, this is over 1200+ hands - brings missed flops and/or drawouts. My bankroll took a huge hit and I am now forced to move down in limits.

I could have quit playing earlier, but my playing was not bad - I was not tilting and was very much in control of what I was doing, i.e.: hand selection, aggression, and dropping hands when it was time. But over the nine hours of play, my stack just slowly disappeared, drained by blinds, rake, missed flops and drawouts.

I look at the hands (in PokerTracker) that winning players have played and I just don't see what they are doing that I am not. Hand selection, aggression, etc. are very similar.

So, I am seeking some advice from the experienced among you. This is quite frustrating; I'm trying to build, but several sessions like these have caused me to question whether this is going to be possible.

Another point to consider: I am a winning player at my local casino in Limit games from 2-4 to 10-20. The play there is NOTHING like what I experience online. Most 2-4 players at the casino drop hands that the online folks draw out on.

How do you post winning numbers from situations like this?

Thanks.

[TripleH68]

I'd keep playing.

The first thing you need to realize is that 1200 hands is nothing. 1200 hands tells you nothing about how well you could do in the game over the long run.

Second thing you need to understand is that two tabling online for one day is equivalent to playing live for 4 days. So your bad run of cards over 9 hours of 2-tabling is like a bad run for 36 hours in a live game.

Also, if you're only playing two tables, you don't need two monitors. Get a monitor that can do 1600x1200 resolution, and you can play up to 4 tables on one monitor without the tables overlapping.

[LImitPlayer]

You can determine NOTHING from 1200 hands.

It's varience.

Also, the competition online is much tougher then live.
The average Party .50-1.00 table plays like most live casinos 5-10 and 10-20 game, not the other way around

I hear ya brother. 90% of my play is 3-6 party skins. Ya just gotta take a deep breath and keep going. The past 4 months I go on a -200BB/100 swing in the middle of the month. I've reviewed & reviewed the hands, the players, strategies, & situations and all I come up with is that I'm playing correctly, and getting destroyed. They will pay you eventually. Just hang in there.

Luck is our enemy. The only way to defeat it is with good decisions and volume.

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The first thing you need to realize is that 1200 hands is nothing. 1200 hands tells you nothing about how well you could do in the game over the long run.

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Right. I've played much more than 1200 hands, but was concerned about these particular hands.

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Second thing you need to understand is that two tabling online for one day is equivalent to playing live for 4 days. So your bad run of cards over 9 hours of 2-tabling is like a bad run for 36 hours in a live game.

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Gotcha. Thanks.

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Also, if you're only playing two tables, you don't need two monitors. Get a monitor that can do 1600x1200 resolution, and you can play up to 4 tables on one monitor without the tables overlapping.

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I like to not squint. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for your input!

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You can determine NOTHING from 1200 hands.

It's varience.

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OK. I understand, and I've played more hands, but was concerned about these particular ones.

Are you saying "Hunker down and play through it"? If so, I understand. My concern is with why, with otherwise good, accurate play on my part, I could not turn this around?

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Also, the competition online is much tougher then live.
The average Party .50-1.00 table plays like most live casinos 5-10 and 10-20 game, not the other way around

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OK. Thanks for your input.

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[magiluke]

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Alternately you could come to Pacific Poker where you would be just another one of the plenty fish in the sea which I live off.

Going to Hawaii this weekend with the missus. Paid for entirely by PP winnings.

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Wow! I've always wanted to go to Hawaii! Tell me more about Pacific Poker [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[DrawDeadJed]

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I have some advice fish - stop playing.

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Posts like yours add nothing to this forum. Go away.