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Old 08-22-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Would you make this call

1-2 pot limit live.
I hold A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on big blind

Preflop: 5 limpers I make it $8. All limpers call.

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check 2 other players check and next player bets 10. I had observed him taking stabs at rag flops like this before and he had been attempting to bully a lot. I decided to flat call and check raise the turn as long as it wasnt
a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Turn: k [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I check he bets $40 I raise to $100. He moves all in. He has around $500 i have $75 left.

I dont put him on aces kings. He has to check trip 6s or quad deuces on the flop as he has the deck crippled and how likly is is that he is playing a deuce for a raise.
Do you think Im ahead and what do ou put my opponent on?
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Would you make this call

He could easily be playing 22 for a raise. He hits his set, he's good to go, he doesn't, he's out of there.

Why would you 'have the deck crippled' if you had trip 6s on that flop? There's a flush draw out there, he could easily be betting a 6. Although with his past play, as you described, it, this could be anything, including a flush draw.

Oh, and he can't have quad deuces on that flop.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:25 PM
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Apologies to everyone.

The flop was actually 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:28 PM
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But if he flops trip sixs its unlikely anyone has a two so surly he should check and hope that some catchs up. And with 5 other players in the pot its likely that any turn or river can improve someones hand. He doesnt have to worry about being outdrawn.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Would you make this call

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1-2 pot limit live.
I hold A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on big blind

Preflop: 5 limpers I make it $8. All limpers call.

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You need to raise more here. Make it $20.

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Turn: k [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I check he bets $40 I raise to $100. He moves all in. He has around $500 i have $75 left.

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Checkraise all-in if you're going to checkraise here.

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I dont put him on aces kings.

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Some great reading skills you have there.
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He has to check trip 6s or quad deuces on the flop as he has the deck crippled

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Why would he check trip 6s with a flush draw on the flop?

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Do you think Im ahead

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No.
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and what do ou put my opponent on?

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A six.

Would I call my last $75 for a $335 pot with AK and a K on the board? Are you kidding me?
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:42 PM
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If that was the actual flop, then yes, it's possible he could be calling with a 2 given the pot odds calling frenzy your raise created.

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But if he flops trip sixs its unlikely anyone has a two so surly he should check and hope that some catchs up.

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What the christ? You can't flop trip sixes on a 2 2 6 flop.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:43 PM
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You say that he had taken a few stabs at ragged flops and been attempting to bully a lot. Did he seem to be a competent player? Had he been showing down good hands?

I ask because no matter how LAGgish he is, if he has any skill, he has a hand here. He made a bet that was ~1/2 pot there and didn't blink when you c/r'ed him. He moved in when you have $75 left. He's got you committed and he wants the rest of your stack. I say 66, 22, or KK.

*edit* I see he limped pf, so forget about the KK. I say he has 66.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:44 PM
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Why would he check trip 6s with a flush draw on the flop?

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Because he floped a house and doesnt have to worry about being outdrawn and surly he is more worried about letting people catch.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:48 PM
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What the christ? You can't flop trip sixes on a 2 2 6 flop

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I meant if he held pocket sixs.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:54 PM
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He played a hand about ten mins previous where he raised preflop with k [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] from the big blind. He missed the ten high flop bet 2/3 pot got called and hit a k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on turn then bet again and got called the river was an ace and it was checked and he showed.

So I was putting him on a kq or a kj or maybe a flush draw when he bet turn.
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