Average saw flop percentage for the entire table

Well, the post wasn't originally about this, and it kinda got hijacked.

So, do you happen to have the average saw flop for the tables you were playing there? If so, I would like to see, just to see how much worse stars is compared to the competition.

[TomBrooks]

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Actually, my ASF from Stars is wrong, because PT mixes all the full ring and 6-max games together.

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Thats true, but you can change a session in PT from Full Ring to 6 Max using Utilities/Database Maintenance and Options.

[Guthrie]

I play all times of the day, but more late night (Central).

Paradise .25/.50 44.51
Paradise .50/1 39.93

[TomBrooks]

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Hello. I play at Stars .5/1 full ring.

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Why does anyone play at any Stars Game that is also available at Party?

I was just playing some Nano-Limit Stud8 at Stars because Party doesn't offer lower than .5/1. Although the .04/.08 was a Donkfest, the .25/.50 game seemed surprisingly tight to me. If I was playing at higher limits I imagine there would have to be a better game somewhere other than Stars.

I play at stars because I didn't know any better. I signed up for stars because I wanted a change from UB. I was mostly playing at Sit-N-Gos at one point, and Stars was better for that than UB in my opinion. When I decided I would start grinding out at limit games with a specific purpose in mind (as opposed to just playing just to play), Stars is where I had my bankroll.

After I snag this 120 dollar bonus at Stars, I will be moving up to 1/2 games, and at that point, I will probably be moving over to party (after I get an email response from them specifically saying that PT and GT+ are allowed.)

One reason I made this post is I felt lost in this micro-limit forum. Everybody kept saying how loose players are at this limit, and how it is impossible to bluff, and how check raising is a waste, since they will just check-call with anything, and so on and so forth. I simply was not seeing it at Stars. I would sit at a game that would be loose, but there would be 4 TAGs on the waiting list behind me, waiting for the fish to get up. Sometimes, there would be no loose games at all.

If the stats I see keep coming in, showing that other sites are over 33% looser than Stars, it will be a clear move for me off of the site, either to Party, or back to UB (provided that UB stats look better than Stars).

Conversely, if the stats show that Stars 1/2 and 2/4 are much looser than the .5/1 tables, I will probably stay.

[flo]

I display players with vol. put $ in > 30% in a different color, and i usually have 2-3 tables (out of 4) with an average of 30%+. I play micro full ring btw.
I've choosen put$in because i think playing tight is kinda the first and easiest thing one can learn when playing, and if they fail to stay under 30%, then i assume they are quite bad in general. Maybe i should up that to 35%...

[TomBrooks]

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I will probably be moving over to party (after I get an email response from them specifically saying that PT and GT+ are allowed.)

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Hi Jack,
Everyone is using PT and GT+ at Party and skins without issue. I wouldn't suggest emailing them about it though. I see no benefit in that, and there is a small but sometimes vocal minority of users don't like don't like their PT policy, so being low key is probably the best course.

If you go to Party, get a rakeback deal if there is one available.

[jrz1972]

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Actually, my ASF from Stars is wrong, because PT mixes all the full ring and 6-max games together.

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Thats true, but you can change a session in PT from Full Ring to 6 Max using Utilities/Database Maintenance and Options.

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Thank you. I knew there had to be some way to do that but I was too lazy to look into it. I'll have to check this out when I get home.

[jrz1972]

The ring games at Stars are fairly tough (relative to other microlimit games). They're definitely beatable, but it's a night and day difference from the Party network.

I play at Stars for reloads and I also log an extra session here and there when I feel like a competitive challenge. Overall, though, I'm like Tom. I don't get why anybody would make that their home site. Party is far softer.

[ClonexxSA]

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The ring games at Stars are fairly tough (relative to other microlimit games). They're definitely beatable, but it's a night and day difference from the Party network.

I play at Stars for reloads and I also log an extra session here and there when I feel like a competitive challenge. Overall, though, I'm like Tom. I don't get why anybody would make that their home site. Party is far softer.

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I currently play at stars because I didnt know any better when I started. Im at about $120 there and am seriously considering withdrawing and heading over to Paradise to build up to the $500 I need to take full advantage of the Party bonus.

Ive been told though that I should wait until $200 to deposit on Paradise to take full advantage of their bonus...I just dont know if I want to spend any more time at Stars playing .25/.50....