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Re: Hypothetical Question
btw to those who said it means nothing or next to nothing. This basically means if its a 4 way pot with 60 chips in the middle, and you somehow knew you could steal the pot 80-90% of the time with a potsized bet, thered really be no reason to since it wont effect your results! |
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Re: Hypothetical Question
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[ QUOTE ] You would have essentially 5% more chips than your opponents, therefore, your roi would go approximately 5% higher(or lower, if negative). Easy one. [/ QUOTE ] That was my initial thought before I remembered that the extra 50 chips is only .5% of the total pool of chips. [/ QUOTE ] No matter. Your ROI is figured on a per player game basis, not per 10 players. Put another way, in ICM, doing this puts the 1045 stack at a .1041 EV, which would mean in a $100 SNG, he would now theoretically make $104.10; all the other players are now at a .995 EV, meaning they will stand to get back $99.50 each. the REAL question, is where is the other 40 cents of EV?!? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I bet curtains took it. See, this is why he's crushing lately. He is making a killing on EV conversion rates. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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btw to those who said it means nothing or next to nothing. This basically means if its a 4 way pot with 60 chips in the middle, and you somehow knew you could steal the pot 80-90% of the time with a potsized bet, thered really be no reason to since it wont effect your results! [/ QUOTE ] For a chess god, you sure don't know proper word usage |
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Weakling, I think you're underestimating the advantage that you would have with 50 extra chips. Not huge, but not so small that it would take 1 million games to show up either. If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors? The fact that most players don't advocate this shows that 50 chips are not entirely meaningless.
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Im on bad run Dali, finally my luck has run it's course. It'll be back soon though.... |
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[ QUOTE ] btw to those who said it means nothing or next to nothing. This basically means if its a 4 way pot with 60 chips in the middle, and you somehow knew you could steal the pot 80-90% of the time with a potsized bet, thered really be no reason to since it wont effect your results! [/ QUOTE ] For a chess god, you sure don't know proper word usage [/ QUOTE ] I could beat you in Scrabble + Boggle too!!!!! |
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RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!
This hypothetical, while interesting, is now solved, even IF curtains won't acknowledge it. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Those who thought the difference was very small have a lot to learn. Those who thought the difference changed significantly with differences in EV have less to learn. I have nothing to learn, for I am the Impotent Daliman! Oops, I meant omnipotent. How does the change post function work...? |
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I want one chip from everyone to start the tourney and then ship the +1% ROI. |
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If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors? [/ QUOTE ] Why not? Unless you a terrible post flop player (keep in mind that hold'em IS a psot flop game...) then this should not hurt your game. In fact, this should increase your ROI, especially at lower limits. |
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[ QUOTE ] If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors? [/ QUOTE ] Why not? Unless you a terrible post flop player (keep in mind that hold'em IS a psot flop game...) then this should not hurt your game. In fact, this should increase your ROI, especially at lower limits. [/ QUOTE ] Oh my.... |
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