How to play this draw

Olback · #1 07-18-2005, 08:14 AM

$30 sng Euro

This hand came up in one of my sngs earlier and it got me thinking how should this kind of draw be played. If it was late on i bet or check/raise all in with it. But this seems like a crazy move this early on.

Should i have been more aggresive or did i play this about right? How would other people have played it.

Assume no reads

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t360)
MP3 (t695)
CO (t760)
Button (t670)
SB (t935)
Hero (t775)
UTG (t615)
UTG+1 (t1125)
UTG+2 (t1245)
MP1 (t820)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t60, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t60, 3 folds, CO calls t60, 1 fold, SB calls t45, Hero calls t30.

Flop: (t300) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets t150, UTG+2 folds, CO calls t150, SB folds, Hero calls t150.

Turn: (t750) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t750

HesseJam · #2 07-18-2005, 08:30 AM

What exactly happened on the flop? It seems the converter botched it.

If the turn was checked around - I play the same.

Olback · #3 07-18-2005, 08:36 AM

Yeah the convertor seems to be screwing up all of my HH recently.

This is the actual hh

***** Hand History for Game 2361033099 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13919127 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, July 14, 02:07:22 EDT 2005
Table Table 11279 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: postemup ( $695 )
Seat 10: mpokerw ( $820 )
Seat 5: lloydbanks22 ( $935 )
Seat 6: Olback1 ( $775 )
Seat 1: reasons ( $360 )
Seat 7: Estock8282 ( $615 )
Seat 9: Gwrza ( $1245 )
Seat 8: topokie ( $1125 )
Seat 3: bclawrenbw ( $760 )
Seat 4: J_Cousteau ( $670 )
Trny:13919127 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback1 [ Kd Td ]
Estock8282 raises [60].
topokie folds.
Gwrza calls [60].
mpokerw folds.
reasons folds.
postemup folds.
bclawrenbw calls [60].
J_Cousteau folds.
lloydbanks22 calls [45].
Olback1 calls [30].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 8s, 3d ]
lloydbanks22 checks.
Olback1 checks.
Estock8282 bets [150].
Gwrza folds.
bclawrenbw calls [150].
lloydbanks22 folds.
Olback1 calls [150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
Olback1 checks.
Estock8282 is all-In [405]
bclawrenbw folds.
Olback1 folds.
Estock8282 does not show cards.
Estock8282 wins 1155 chips
Game #2361037714 starts.

HesseJam · #4 07-18-2005, 10:30 AM

So, you have to pay 405 to win 1155, right?

Estock probably has a good J (Why didn't he go in then on the flop), a set or nothing. You'll win with a diamond AND maybe with a King. You have 12 outs overall, let's make that 10.5 clear outs. It's a close fold IMO, because he is all-in and you cannot extract more.

HesseJam · #5 07-18-2005, 10:32 AM

If bluff probability is greater than 15% here you could think of calling.

Olback · #6 07-19-2005, 01:25 AM

That was my thinking as well. I doubt he was bluffing.

I am just unsure if it is correct to allow myself to be this short, this early in a sng.

Also i am unsure if a fold was better on the flop. I was checking and hoping for a cheap draw and i only called the 150 becuase of the 1st caller.