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Old 07-05-2005, 05:39 AM
GrowsOnTrees GrowsOnTrees is offline
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Default When Two Hands Collide

Empire Poker $1500 Daily, 300 entrants currently 80 left, payout from 40 onwards.

10 handed table, hero UTG +3 (3100 chips), villain BB (4900 chips), blinds 50/100

Table folds to hero who raises to 200 with JJ, table folds to the BB who calls.

Flop comes down 2 6 10 (rainbow)

BB bets out 400, hero raises all-in (I’m happy to take down an 850 pot at this point), BB calls.

BB has 10 3 (os)

Turn comes down with a 6, and the river brings a 10

I’m not posting this hand as a bad beat as the villain had top pair on the board, although his kicker may be a little suspect. To me the flop for a pair of jacks looked perfect but it also looked pretty good for having a 10 in your hand.

Never really had a read on the player as he only moved to the table a few minutes before but my thinking at the time of playing this hand was that to double up at this point in the tourney would put me in the money.

Running the hand back through in my head I can’t find it in myself to ever put the hand down and the BB with top pair has every reason to call. The hand is playing on my mind so my main questions are, have I played this hand badly i.e. was my pre-flop raise weak? was the all-in bet wrong? Do I ever fold this hand? What do you think of the BB play?
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:54 PM
paytosee215 paytosee215 is offline
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Default Re: When Two Hands Collide

I would have made it at least 3X BB pre-flop

Villian calling any raises with 10 3 off is....retarded

Maybe he puts you on Ax because your pre-flop raise was weak? He figures his top pair is good, there is no way he is thinking you have JJ.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:09 PM
People_Mover People_Mover is offline
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Default Re: When Two Hands Collide

Raise more preflop
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:48 PM
Juff Juff is offline
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Default Re: When Two Hands Collide

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Villian calling any raises with 10 3 off is....retarded

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Villian was getting 3.5:1 on his call. You're correct that Hero needed to raise more preflop though.
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:35 PM
paytosee215 paytosee215 is offline
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Default Re: When Two Hands Collide

So Doyle Brunson won this 10th bracelet today......calling with 10 3 off.

I guess its not ALWAYS retarded... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:57 PM
AlmightyJay AlmightyJay is offline
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Default Re: When Two Hands Collide

You need to raise more preflop, and I think your massive overbet (2900 into an 850 pot) on the flop made him assume you had missed overcards and were trying to chase him out.

Basically your min-raise preflop followed by enormous overbet on the flop screamed weak hand. I don't like BB's play, but I don't like yours at all either.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: When Two Hands Collide

I understand from the synopsis that Doyle moved in with 10-3 and was called.
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