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Old 06-23-2005, 12:28 AM
rokstedy rokstedy is offline
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Default AA in early position

The last 3 times I've had AA in early position early in a tourney, I've opted for the limp re-raise tactic. The situations were as follows:

A: I limped with AA, JJ in late position raised to 200 and I pushed in. JJ hit a set and I'm out.

B: I limped with AA, TT raises it to 80, T7s calls and I raise behind to 500. Both players call, the flop is Jxx with two hearts and both players call my all in bet of 900 on the flop. T7s hits a heart and I'm out.

C: I limped with AA, xx raises to 80, UTG limper calls and I raise behind to 500. xx folds and AQo calls. Flop is JTx rainbow. Again I push for 900 and AQ hits a K on the river and I'm out.

I'm not here to tell bad beat stories. My question is...should I be reading anything into this? I'm 0-3 in slowplaying AA early in a SnG. Should I simply be raising normally with these or did I play them well and just got unlucky? I think that in the case of JJ and AQ I was dead before I put my first chips in the pot. Thoughts?
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: AA in early position

I dont see much of a problem, you got your chips all in when you were ahead with AA. There's not much more you can do than that, so in essence, this is a bad beat post... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:39 AM
Dan Rutter Dan Rutter is offline
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Default Re: AA in early position

If people are calling your limp-raises of such huge amounts that is a good thing. You limp for $30, Player A makes it $80, Player B calls $80, so there is $190 in the pot, if you are playing with people who will then put another $420 I would do that all day I guess. I probably would not limp raise such a large amount because I would be worried I would be eliminating action.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: AA in early position

limping with aces, with the intention of limp re-raising, should be a tactic used to prevent opponents from reading you easily (improve your shania), but it shouldn't become a habit. under most circumstances, the play with optimal +ev by raising with the aces.

as for the hands, you got your money in with the best of it. sleep easy.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: AA in early position

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I dont see much of a problem, you got your chips all in when you were ahead with AA. There's not much more you can do than that, so in essence, this is a bad beat post... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I only post the scenarios to find out if there's a way I could avoid going broke in those hands. I used to be pretty good at SnG's, but my game has faded of late (too much time at the cash tables), and I just want to plug a few leaks.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: AA in early position

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If people are calling your limp-raises of such huge amounts that is a good thing. You limp for $30, Player A makes it $80, Player B calls $80, so there is $190 in the pot, if you are playing with people who will then put another $420 I would do that all day I guess. I probably would not limp raise such a large amount because I would be worried I would be eliminating action.

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That's encouraging then. The thing I feared is I'm giving people the opportunity to get lucky. But in the end, I guess I'm getting all my chips and others too in the hand in a dominating position and that's about all I can ask.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: AA in early position

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limping with aces, with the intention of limp re-raising, should be a tactic used to prevent opponents from reading you easily (improve your shania), but it shouldn't become a habit. under most circumstances, the play with optimal +ev by raising with the aces.

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It should be noted that these three hands occured over the course of 3 weeks. I'm pretty sure that's not a habitual behaviou [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: AA in early position

I think just raising up is better in most cases without a read on a table if it's aggressive.

No reason to limp behind limpers, and you want to get your money in preflop with a good preflop hand.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:07 AM
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I think just raising up is better in most cases without a read on a table if it's aggressive.

No reason to limp behind limpers, and you want to get your money in preflop with a good preflop hand.

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All three of these occured in round 2 of step tourneys on gaming club where there is usually always action early. I was certain I was going to get action in each case.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:09 AM
ILuVPuPPiEs ILuVPuPPiEs is offline
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Default Re: AA in early position

They raise...
- Call attention to your hand because of the limp/re-raise and everyone bails when they miss their set.

They limp...
- 5 callers and you have to muck your hand because the pot is worth 120 and he bet 150 into a JQK flop
- Going broke in an unraised pot...enough said

Just raise to like 75, if you get enough callers you can check/raise a good looking flop
If not you can just bet out and see what happens from there


...its late so I have no idea what I just said nor do i know if it is even remotely on the right track..srry
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