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Fold 14 43.75%
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:41 PM
Keres Keres is offline
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Default 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

6600 players. 25/50 blinds. Everyone has 10k in chips. UTG raises to 250. Folded to you on the button. You raise to 1250 with KK. Blinds fold. UTG reraises allin. You've never seen this player before.
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:44 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

I hate you and this thread about equally

edit: okay, I don't hate you, but I do hate this thread
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:46 PM
ClaytonN ClaytonN is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

Fold preflop

PS This thread sucks
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

This has been discussed before. For me, you are going to need a stack at this tourney. Below is not totally accurate as there is no way that villain's cards are completely random for an all-in pre-flop. But still, KK looks pretty good. All that said, I'm calling and I'm hating myself til Villain turns over QQ.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

12,585,434,400 games 24.500 secs 513,691,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 82.3957 % 82.12% 00.28% { KK }
Hand 2: 17.6043 % 17.33% 00.28% { random }
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:48 PM
slickpoppa slickpoppa is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

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This has been discussed before. For me, you are going to need a stack at this tourney. Below is not totally accurate as there is no way that villain's cards are completely random for an all-in pre-flop. But still, KK looks pretty good. All that said, I'm calling and I'm hating myself til Villain turns over QQ.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

12,585,434,400 games 24.500 secs 513,691,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 82.3957 % 82.12% 00.28% { KK }
Hand 2: 17.6043 % 17.33% 00.28% { random }

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Whats the point of listing KK's equity against a random hand. Clealry the villain's hand is not random.

Anyway, I would fold. There, I said it. For the people who said it's an easy call, how deep do the stacks have to be for you to fold KK preflop to an all-in? If 200bb isnt deep enough, then what is?
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Old 06-15-2005, 02:34 AM
BabyJesus BabyJesus is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

Haven't you guys read Harrington on Holdem? He says just call with KK, occasionally they'll have AA but what is more likely is they surprise you with AKs or QQ. He says you'll run KK into AA like 1/24 hands or something like that and you just have to suck it up when it happens.
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Old 06-15-2005, 04:11 AM
Skjonne Skjonne is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

Oh no. Not again
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Old 06-15-2005, 04:26 AM
OrcaDK OrcaDK is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

Why would anyone push AA this quickly, wouldn't they reraise to like 3500? I'm calling this in a heartbeat.
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Old 06-15-2005, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

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Why would anyone push AA this quickly, wouldn't they reraise to like 3500?

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I'm calling this in a heartbeat

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I think you answered your own question.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: 1st hand of the WSOP ME, reraised allin pf you have KK. Easy fold?

I push because I've been preparing for this to happen since this thread has appeared in some variation 6,600 times over the last year. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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