5, 10 No Limit at B&M

[Tom22]

I'm looking for some advice after the flop.

BB ($1500)
UTG 2 ($835)
MP 2 Hero ($2800)
CO ($4000)

UTG 2 calls, I call with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], CO raises to $50. BB calls, UTG2 calls, I call.

Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($205)

BB checks, UTG2 checks, I check (with the intentions of putting a big check raise, knowing that the CO will bet), CO bets $100, BB raises to $300, UTG 2 goes all in for $785.

What is hero next move?

My thought process at this point. CO could have anything but probably made a continuation bet. BB could have a flush draw, overpair, 2 pairs. I put UTG2 on two pair or a set. I don't think anyone would play a 3 5 preflop for a straight.

What is the correct move at this point? I'll post what I did after I get some responses.

[PoBoy321]

I would have preferred leading. Obviously, the goal is to get as much money in the pot as possible, and leading into the raiser is the best way to do that.

In your position, I'd have to call, but I really don't like the way you played the hand.

[Alex/Mugaaz]

fold preflop

[Popinjay]

Calling after that flop action is a big mistake I think. There is too much of a chance that higher spades are out there which is absolutely deadly for your hand.

[captZEEbo1]

fold preflop.

With ALL that action, it's somewhat likely you're up against a set or a higher flush draw. I'm probably folding this one, despite your seemingly tons of outs. If you get heads up vs a set or a higher flush draw, you will be a about a 60/40 dog. If you're up against BOTH a set and a higher flush draw, your EV is 20% to win the hand. So you have to think how likely multiple people will see showdown. Calling here would probably slightly -ev, though I didn't do all the math for it.

[Tom22]

The reason that I didn't bet out was because I thought that the CO would bet and then fold to a raise. One can not expect to get a much action on this type of flop as I did with this hand.

[Tom22]

I asked for advice after the flop. But anyways I play these hands in late position when the money is deep and I feel that I can break somebody with it.

[Alex/Mugaaz]

This isn't even a 1 gapper. There is no reason to play it.

[chumdawg]

"BB could have a flush draw, overpair, 2 pairs. I put UTG2 on two pair or a set. I don't think anyone would play a 3 5 preflop for a straight."

If no one would play 3 5 for a straight, then I'd start discounting those two pairs as possible holdings for both these players.

I wonder if they were thinking: No one would play 5 8 for the double-gutter flush draw.

[cjmewett]

I think this is a clear fold. If you're able to do the raising instead of the calling, things play out differently, but considering the flop action, I can't imagine calling here. You're most likely up against, at best, an overpair and/or suited overcards. You probably have eight clean (straight) outs, but then you've still almost certainly got to worry about redraws.

Like you said, you're playing this hand to try to stack someone when you make a monster. You don't want best-case coin-flips on the flop.