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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
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I don't agree. The pot is big and the Hero cannot be 100% certain that he is beat. An extra bet at this point is worth the payoff that he may have the best hand. You only need to be best less than 10% for this to pay off at this point. I'd call to make him show his cards. [/ QUOTE ] The BB is clearly going to call. So there will be 17 BB's at the end. Hero has to call 2. He has to be best more often than 10% here and not less. To me that river action screams full house for one of those players. |
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
Calling flop is correct play, folding is a mistake
Gut shot straight(4 outs), overcard(3 outs) and backdoor flush draw combined make flop call profitable. Pot odds are 10-1. |
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
7.5:1 with nut flush and a paired board. I see odd [censored] all the time but this is crazy. say BB has KK he hits his FH on the turn and sees it checked through on the turn and river? I dunno. So crazy. Alright, you need to be right about 12, 13%. Not just that but you have to beat 2 people that % of the time. I think someone hit there backdoor flush with you but I really think your toast. This may be awful saying this but I could find a fold here. In the middle of multitabling and all that, I would just click call and be done with it. I also think BB having TT is a distinct possiblity too
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
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But really.. fold flop. You have nothing to do in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] No |
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The BB is clearly going to call. So there will be 17 BB's at the end. Hero has to call 2. He has to be best more often than 10% here and not less. To me that river action screams full house for one of those players. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I did the math wrong too, always forget the people you know are going to call, Thanks. BB has the FH or quads if anyone, other guy hit the bd flush with you. |
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
It got 3-betted preflop, normally when people do that they have AA KK QQ JJ AK TT, flop comes KT7, you have 4 outs to a gutshot and thats more or less all you got. Even if you hit your gutshot you will lose sometimes to a full house. I think its an easy fold.
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr /> I don't agree. The pot is big and the Hero cannot be 100% certain that he is beat. An extra bet at this point is worth the payoff that he may have the best hand. You only need to be best less than 10% for this to pay off at this point. I'd call to make him show his cards. [/ QUOTE ] The BB is clearly going to call. So there will be 17 BB's at the end. Hero has to call 2. He has to be best more often than 10% here and not less. To me that river action screams full house for one of those players. [/ QUOTE ] There are only gonna be 16BB on the end. BB is putting in 4, MP2 is putting in 4, and you've already put in 2. Add that to the original 6.16, and that's a 16.16BB pot assuming nothing else is taken out for rake. I really can't see you winning this hand enough to call the river. Do you think a "74/0/0.3 after 81 hands and -- so far, anyway -- he'd been very predictable" kind of player caps a check-3bet with the non-nut flush on a paired board? I think we're in really bad shape here, and need to fold. |
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
Even if do not count overcard, 4 outs to a gutshot and backdoor flush draw make 10-1 flop call profitable due to implied odds.
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
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Even if do not count overcard, 4 outs to a gutshot and backdoor flush draw make 10-1 flop call profitable due to implied odds. [/ QUOTE ] Adjusting odds like that, you can make any call profitable. Even with implied odds, it would be a marginal call. Include reverse implied odds and you are toast. |
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Re: AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?
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[ QUOTE ] Even if do not count overcard, 4 outs to a gutshot and backdoor flush draw make 10-1 flop call profitable due to implied odds. [/ QUOTE ] Adjusting odds like that, you can make any call profitable. Even with implied odds, it would be a marginal call. Include reverse implied odds and you are toast. [/ QUOTE ] In my opinion, if you and Evigt want to fold on the flop, getting 11:1 closing the action, and you're saying that without letting the river action influence you, then you give up too easily with a decent draw. |
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