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Old 06-01-2005, 04:07 AM
VBM VBM is offline
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Default position & passive line vs TAG

villain is hyper-aggro TAG 18/9/8.5 over 60 hand sample...

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

I play it the same.
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

I like it dude.

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Old 06-01-2005, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

There is really no spot here that I want to raise, but I'm definetly not folding either. nh
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

I would have raised the flop - THEN turn passive. Try to take control.

Not enough hands to REALLY know if villain is that aggressive. I'm in the 1.8 range and I've been in the 10s after 60 hands at times.

HOWEVER - raising the flop is for a free card. If you don't think he is going to back down. Calling is fine. Still - I like to raise when I hit. Puts the other guy on edge.


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Old 06-01-2005, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

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I would have raised the flop - THEN turn passive. Try to take control.

Not enough hands to REALLY know if villain is that aggressive. I'm in the 1.8 range and I've been in the 10s after 60 hands at times.

HOWEVER - raising the flop is for a free card. If you don't think he is going to back down. Calling is fine. Still - I like to raise when I hit. Puts the other guy on edge.


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Huh?
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Old 06-01-2005, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

How do you raise the flop, become passive, and take control all at the same time?

And what the hell do you want a free card for?
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Old 06-01-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

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I would have raised the flop - THEN turn passive. Try to take control.

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I agree - raising here tells you a bit. He coulda been raising pre-flop cos he saw you as a stealer (despite the UTG call).

If he then reraises after your raise, he'll have 2pair/trips or AK/AQ, so fold. If he calls, you're ahead at that point.

What did he have, BTW, high pair?
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Old 06-01-2005, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: position & passive line vs TAG

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I would have raised the flop - THEN turn passive. Try to take control.

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I agree - raising here tells you a bit. He coulda been raising pre-flop cos he saw you as a stealer (despite the UTG call).

If he then reraises after your raise, he'll have 2pair/trips or AK/AQ, so fold. If he calls, you're ahead at that point.

What did he have, BTW, high pair?

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You forgot "if he folds you just left 2BB on the table."
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Old 06-01-2005, 11:18 AM
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Puts the other guy on edge

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Indeed. I love making 'em bite their fingernails.
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