New Party T&C's on Pop-up

Sheriff Fatman · #1 05-26-2005, 05:48 AM

Seems like Party are preparing for a clampdown. The new T&C's are automatically assumed to be agreed (via the pop-up) next time you log in. The wording looks to have been strengthened somewhat.

Highlights (for want of a better phrase)..........

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You are prohibited from holding more than one Account at PartyPoker.com and any of the websites on the Shared Game/Table Platform. If you have more than one (1) Account or Accounts in different names, then you must contact us immediately to have your Accounts managed so that you only have one (1).

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followed by .....

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21.1 THE COMPANY RESERVES THE RIGHT, IN ITS UNFETTERED DISCRETION AND IN RELATION TO YOUR ACCOUNT, ANY RELATED ESP ACCOUNT, ANY ACCOUNTS YOU MAY HAVE WITH OTHER WEBSITES AND/OR CASINOS OWNED OR OPERATED BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY AND ANY WEBSITES THAT SHARE THE SHARED GAME/TABLE PLATFORM, TO WITHHOLD YOUR ACCOUNT BALANCE, SUSPEND YOUR ACCOUNT, AND RECOVER ANY PAY-OUTS, BONUSES AND WINNINGS IF:
(i) You are in breach of any term of this Agreement;

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So in theory this effectively gives them the right to do whatever they want.

Thoughts anyone?

Sheriff

Jman28 · #2 05-26-2005, 06:04 AM

This scares me a lot. Can/will they take our money?

Transference · #3 05-26-2005, 06:08 AM

I doubt it, but its sounding more and more like the party skin bonus buffet may be comming to an end [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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...have more than one (1) Account or Accounts in different names

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Just noticed that this is interestingly worded...

Jman28 · #4 05-26-2005, 06:15 AM

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I doubt it, but its sounding more and more like the party skin bonus buffet may be comming to an end [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I seriously don't care about the bonuses. I just want to 8-table.

Nfinity · #5 05-26-2005, 06:23 AM

Think about what would happen if Party took money from a person who was a poster here, and the person offered up legitimate proof that their funds were confiscated for having multiple skins.

There would be a run on cashouts like you wouldn't believe, and not just at "Party" but the other skins as well. I'm not saying havoc would ensue, but I can't imagine anyone here wouldn't at least refrain from depositing large sums to party, in the face of a legitimate claim.

Can they take away Rakeback? Yes, for the most part, it's against their T&C. Can they implement new and better ways for a user to only have 1 skin? I forsee it as a their first step, if this truly is a problem for them. Can they close your accounts because of this? Yes, I certainly think it's withing their rights, should they deem it necessary, but I certainly doubt they would do so while confiscating funds. They are a multi-million dollar industry, they don't need the pittance in your account, nor the hassle that would entail.

For the time being, I'm not too worried.

Nfinity · #6 05-26-2005, 06:29 AM

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I doubt it, but its sounding more and more like the party skin bonus buffet may be comming to an end

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I doubt that as well. They may implement some form of stauncher rule for making sure that they aren't taken advantage of come bonus time, but the fish LOVE these bonii just as much as we do.

raptor517 · #7 05-26-2005, 07:32 AM

so make an account under yer dads name, yer moms name, yer sisters name, and yer dogs name. ok, not yer dog. no doggy id. but still, this doesnt really change things for me anyway. ill continue to 12 table and they will continue to generate rake from me. win win, why would they want a change. holla

lorinda · #8 05-26-2005, 07:36 AM

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Dear Lori,

Thank you for contacting us.

With regards to your mail, I would like to inform you that according to the
terms and conditions,you will not be able to hold two accounts.

I suggest you to carry on playing with either of the accounts, and regarding the
other account, please write to them stating that you would like to close the
account and the reason.

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There is some VERY careful wording in there.

Edit: I cashed out anyway, because I'm like that, but I think you can read that email several ways for those who are a bit less paranoid than I am.

Lori

Transference · #9 05-26-2005, 07:38 AM

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They may implement some form of stauncher rule for making sure that they aren't taken advantage of come bonus time

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I think taking advantage of them is exactly what most of us have in mind. A better question might be if their long term policy plans include allowing those who regularly play multiple skins and generate money for the sites will continue to be allowed to do so.

In any case its starting to me to look like there is some actual planned long term strategy gradually taking effect. It's pretty clear that vagueness is continuing to be their standard operating procedure. I think they intend that the average player will not be scared away by major changes. The most likely scenario is they have a list of loopholes that are gradually being addressed and there will not be any radical policy changes.

TemetNosce · #10 05-26-2005, 07:56 AM

Time to turn out the lights, the "Party" is almost over. I'd interpret "different names" as meaning different screen IDs. No more multiple skin accounts, gnoming, etc.

Can they take your funds? I'd say they can do basically whatever they want, what retribution do they have to fear? I doubt anyone is going to try to take legal action against them in another country. Sure can't do it in the good ol' USA. They could piss off a bunch of 2+2'ers, but there are plenty of non-2+2 players there, so they won't lose much.

If you have accounts at multiple skins, I'd strongly consider just keep one and dumping the others. It's just not worth losing any funds or the ability to at least play at one Party skin.