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Old 04-27-2005, 03:49 PM
RiverTheNuts RiverTheNuts is offline
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Default Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

This is my first hand at the table, and I probably could have milked at least 1 more bet out by checking turn, +EV?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Dariel86 Dariel86 is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

That's fine imo, don't let him draw a flush for free.
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

i bet this turn every time. I think you're losing $$$ long term by checking. a lot of the time you will get called by top pair, middle pair, draws, etc..
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:53 PM
Ten7offsuit Ten7offsuit is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

Looks fine to me, I don't want him to river a flush or straight on me without paying.
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:07 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

there's an argument for just calling preflop, but I would bet the turn in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:13 PM
RiverTheNuts RiverTheNuts is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

I thought the 3 bet PF was a nobrainer, get crap like QJ, QT, etc to fold to 2 cold hopefully... I cant be behind to any of the limpers, so why not 3 bet and isolate?
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:14 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

I would 3 bet, but calling can be argued as it sets you up for a protection raise on a favorable flop.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:48 PM
TGoldman TGoldman is offline
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Default Re: Crap, I really hate this turn bet... check and induce river bluff?

I very strongly advocate just calling pre-flop because it guarantees to put yourself in a profitable situation. You're almost surely going to be getting about 7:1 pot odds for a 7.5:1 chance of flopping a set of better. In other words, you're essentially being offered an even money proposition to hit your set with the incentive of collecting all of the additional bets afterwards if you hit. That sounds like a great deal to me! And as DMBFan23 said, we still reserve the right to raise the SB on the flop and protect our hand if we miss our set but still catch a favorable flop.
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