scare card on the river - bet or check?

madscratch · #1 02-02-2005, 11:59 PM

3rd or 4th hand on this table. I know the player to my right is very loose, but that's about it.

I feel pretty good about this until 5th street. I checked it. Should I have bet?

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

River: (8 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8 BB

davelin · #2 02-03-2005, 12:01 AM

You really that afraid of 67 or A2?

madscratch · #3 02-03-2005, 12:05 AM

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You really that afraid of 67 or A2?

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A2 more than 67. Player to my right plays A-anything regularly.

wrto4556 · #4 02-03-2005, 12:06 AM

You're missing out on too many value bets on the river if you check to any card that completes any draw.

davelin · #5 02-03-2005, 12:09 AM

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You really that afraid of 67 or A2?

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A2 more than 67. Player to my right plays A-anything regularly.

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More reason to value bet since if he's loose he's more likely to hold a hand you beat than specifically A2.

Helios · #6 02-03-2005, 12:25 AM

I would definatly bet this.

Question: should I call if my bet was raised?

wrto4556 · #7 02-03-2005, 12:32 AM

I think you should call. It's offering you 10-1...so only 10% of the time do you have to have the best hand to show a profit?

davelin · #8 02-03-2005, 12:35 AM

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I think you should call. It's offering you 10-1...so only 10% of the time do you have to have the best hand to show a profit?

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If you're check-raised here, you're good less than 10% of the time. Given that, I still have a hard time folding.

syphlix · #9 02-03-2005, 01:23 AM

i think you've gotta bet here... i would... i'm not gonna give someone credit for rivering a straight for no reason...

if you get raised... well... it's still not the straight i'm afraid of... but more like A9 or some crappy 2-pair... though no matter what i'm still gonna call that last bet...

madscratch · #10 02-03-2005, 10:42 AM

Thanks all for the reply. Yeah, I felt like I let some bets go here. Shoulda bet it.

Results:
Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

River: (8 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Hero has 8h Ah (one pair, eights).
SB has Ad Ks (high card, ace).
UTG has Ac Tc (high card, ace).
MP has 5c Kh (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 8 BB.