All-in with KK?

[daveymck]

Looking at the results its easy to say yes you should have folded. The first player could have been trying to steal the blinds (even if not a push in this position is generally going to mean less than an UTG all in) and the other stack may well have any PP or even two face cards, just cos its down to 75 doesnt mean they are definatley better players. You will gwt shown AA at times here but many more times you will be shown JJ,QQ, 10,0, 99 and god knows what other crap that you are a massive favourite over.

But personally I am pushing here 100% of the time, sounds like you are in the money heres your chance to triple up and make a real go of the final table and big money.

If it was the final table and the money jumped significantly if one of these players busted out I may consider folding (even then I would be hard pressed to fold).

[smartalecc5]

i would have called. if the AA guy would have RAISED, then i would have folded

[bholdr]

the only time i'd even consider folding KK is if the UTG player went allin and was called by someone else in early or middle position and i was on the edge of cashing.

that being said, you're in a tourney: where is the money at? that's the most important thing: if you bust 75th and win 100$ vs holding on till 60th for 500$, it looks like a fold to me.

when i get down to the last 10% of players in a tourney, i'm not thinking "i wanna win this" i'm thingkin "maximize EV, everyone that busts makes me money, make that final table, maximize EV" i only go for a win if i am in the top 10% of the players still in.

edit: Believe it or not, i have even folded aces preflop. there were three allins ahead of me, and 11 players left in the tourney. final table cashes only. i was short stacked, and would be even had i won. i took the 65$ 9th place finish and was very satisfied to do so.

but i am no tourney expert by a long shot.


cash game? NEVER FOLD KK. if somebody has AA, well that happens.

[pzhon]

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i would have called. if the AA guy would have RAISED, then i would have folded

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Actually, if there isn't much more money left to go in, a smooth-call indicates AA more strongly than a raise. Though you will hear plenty of incorrect statements to the contrary, AA welcomes multi-way pots.

KK is easily strong enough to call or raise despite this warning sign. People just call rather than raise with many weaker hands.

[Snowslide]

Today I was in late position, with KK, and the seat before me went all in with 5k, and I was sitting at 10k, so I called, as I saw him make a few questionable all-in moves earlier.
He had QQ. So, the board ends up
Qxx,K,Q
DOH!
This was my first crack at a big NL tourney (PS $215).
Just thought I would share that, as it is sticking out in my head.
I also had KK beaten on the river by a flush, but that was kinda my fault.
Kinda.