Poker Etiquette....?

[Dahlberg]

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Just a nitpick but, if you had QJ in your hand, how could you have a set?

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QQ or JJ as part of the flop. He didnt say specifically since the turn 3 was the focus of his narration.

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I don't mean to nitpick either, but that would be trips, not a set.

Onaflag........

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trips is another word for a set...
but i don want to be a nitpick, of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[ZeeBee]

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Just a nitpick but, if you had QJ in your hand, how could you have a set?

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QQ or JJ as part of the flop. He didnt say specifically since the turn 3 was the focus of his narration.

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I don't mean to nitpick either, but that would be trips, not a set.

Onaflag........

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trips is another word for a set...
but i don want to be a nitpick, of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]Obviously I do want to nitpick - a set usually implies a PP in the hand, trips can be any three-of-a-kind.

More seriously, many games (home and in casinos) follow the Etiquette rules that "Revealing the contents of a live hand in a multihanded pot before the betting is complete." is bad etiquette (taken from Bob Ciaffone's Robert's Rules of Poker v4 - although technically speaking you weren't revealing the contents of your hand, you were lying.

Most importantly though, if most people in the game believe it to be Bad Etiquette then you should either comply with their wishes or persuade them to change their minds - otherwise you won't get invited back. It's all well and good to laugh at their naivety, but you won't get much change to exploit it if you never get invited.

ZB

[SDA004]

As far as I know it, it's against the rules to talk about what you have in your hand. I remember specifically one situation in a tournament on tv where a player made some comment about the hand he had while still in the hand, and TJ Cloutier flipped out on him and told him he'd get him kicked out of the tourney if he did that again.

Saying what you have in your hand, true or false, is a definite poker no-no. As far as being in europe, there rules are no talk at the table period. You can't say a thing.

[ElSapo]

I can't imagine a home game where you can't BS about your hand. Frankly, I can't imagine not being able to do this anywhere -- are people really supposed to believe you? Please...

Ah, and no, it's not a set. Trips.

[TenPercenter]

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Ah, and no, it's not a set. Trips.

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Ok, let the expert step in here. Set is, in Egyptian religion, god of evil. Set was a sun god of predynastic Egypt, but he gradually degenerated from being a beneficent deity into being a god of evil and... Oh wait, did i get off topic? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Ten

[Onaflag]

I think the OP's question has been answered effectively, so if I may go OT one last time, Dahlberg, I politely say you're wrong. As pointed out, a set means you have pocket pairs and trips imply any three of a kind. They are not the same thing when sitting around a table playing cards. When I hear people say they have a set when they have trips, a couple of us look at each other and giggle. No big deal and who even cares but the most anal? I'll not hijack again. I promise. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Onaflag..........

[SDA004]

People aren't supposed to believe me, per se. The fact is that at a casino you are not supposed to divulge what you have in your hand, truthfully or otherwise. What people do at their home games is their own business. I know at any home game or tournament I host, I like to keep things as much like the casino as I can and don't allow people to "bs" or whatever what they have in their hands. If this guy wants to allow that, that is fine, the fact is that as far as strict poker etiquette goes, if there is such a thing, saying what is in your hand is very bad etiquette.

[goose44]

Differnet casinos have very differnt rules about what you can and can't do. For example, at my home casno it's not unusual when head-up for one player to expose one of his cards to gage an opponent's reaction.

As far as mentioning he has a 3. This is part of the game and if you believe him you're probably not going to be very successful at poker. There's a tremendous amount of gray area in this topic and there's also a huge differnce between home games, live games and tournaments. In most tournaments exposing cards will get you at least a warning if not a penalty while as I said, the rules vary in live games. In home games this really shouldn't be an issue.

[ElSapo]

I think some of the rules are too nitty for my tastes, especially at low limits... If some guy wants to start spouting off about how he just hit his kicker, let him. But I realize, there are rules which say otherwise.

As for home games, sounds like we have different types.

[focus on poker]

Do you let someone pee on your shoe and then believe them when they tell you it is raining? Your friend needs to relax. The only thing I care about is if someone tries to look at somebody's cards on a fold. Good luck!