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is this a weak fold?
On sunday nights i play a homegame at a buddy's house with about 7 maniacs and 2 respectable players. We play with a 10 dollar max buy in and .5/.10 blinds, one hand bothered me.
Stack Sizes: Hero: ~35 Decent player: ~30 New Kid SUPER MANIAC:~15 I get JJ in middle postition and raise to 1 dollar(for some reason no one respects any raise smaller than that at all in this game, there were frequently 5 dollar preflop bets in a .05/.10 game), and not shockingly, new kid super maniac goes all in, as he has over and over all night, hes lost about 3 buy ins by now. Decent player knows i have a hand, and is trying to read me, he now flat calls the 15 dollars. I think for awhile, and read decent player as having QQ/KK and wanting me to stay along for the ride, so i fold. they both flip over AKo and the flop comes...JJ4, sweet...should i have went over the top all in with these reads or was it the correct fold? hands like JJ, TT and QQ always are hard to play after 2 all ins, is this an autofold or am i crazy? rj |
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Re: is this a weak fold?
If there are this many maniacs at your table there is probably a better spot for you to make money than overcalling an all-in with JJ. The analysis basically boils down to what the probability is that either of these opponents has you dominated with an overpair. That is the only situation where you do not have odds to call. The fact that you "would have" flopped quads doesn't mean squat - I probably would have folded as well. Keep in mind there's no way I'm folding that hand against the first player's all-in by itself.
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Re: is this a weak fold?
how often were you raising pre-flop? if the decent player thinks that you probably have a mediocre and will fold, he'll call with a much wider range of hands than if he thinks you're being a rock. i would probably push as villain should be playing a pretty wide range.
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Re: is this a weak fold?
oh, if the decent player had folded i would have called in a second, no doubt about it. My thought process was basically, hmm, should i risk all my chips here or wait and use my skills and outplay everyone in a situation where i have a little more control. I was worried about being dominated an overpair so i folded, i know the quads didnt really matter, but it definitly seemed like a "you F%^$^ing idiot sign. all of the maniacs at my table gave me [censored] for awhile after, but oh well, i would probably do the same if put in that situation again.
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Re: is this a weak fold?
you told them you folded JJ? or worse - showed it?
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