More fuel to the Psychoreligionology fire

[uw_madtown]

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It's not your fault, but you've been misled by creationist hucksters.

Speciation (what creationists call "macroevolution") has been directly observed many times. It is a hard fact.

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I haven't been decieved by creationists. I don't even listen to creationists.

This is all based on high school biology and a handful of evolutionary college classes. In which, it was referred to as macroevolution (although speciation was used interchangably), and in which this larger mechanism was presented as unprovable. Certainly not that they doubted it at all, simply that they acknowledged it as unprovable.

I wouldn't know where to begin reading from your list, but can you sum up how, for example, scientists have proven macro-evolution?

It seems counterintuitive that someone could observe such a process, which, according to theory I was presented, takes place over thousands, hundreds of thousands, and millions of years.

Again, this isn't remotely close to my area of study and I was just interjecting what little I've learned. If it's wrong, blame Wisconsin. Or my mediocre attendance record.

[Dan Mezick]

There are alot of people running around defending flawed beliefs. Once you believe something, you can really cut down on your thinking.

This goes for rabid evolutionists also. Evolution happens, OK. And, many go further, and completely buy the 'evolution as ORIGIN of life' argument.

Then they get religious about it.

If you like exercising your brain, this link on the subject may be of interest to creationists and evolutionists that are NOT rabid.

Cosmic Origin

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Cosmic Ancestry is a new theory pertaining to evolution and the origin of life on Earth. It holds that life on Earth was seeded from space, and that life's evolution to higher forms depends on genetic programs that come from space. (It accepts the Darwinian account of evolution that does not require new genetic programs.) It is a wholly scientific, testable theory for which evidence is accumulating.



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The ability to think is a terrible thing to waste.

[BarronVangorToth]

Evolution, as the song teaches us, is in fact a Mystery.


Barron Vangor Toth
www.BarronVangorToth.com
"I See The Line In The Sand"

[MaxPower]

You know what. I think we should teach Creationism and Intelligent Design along with evolutionary theory. We should present the evidence for all three and let students decide which makes most sense.

There is a problem in the way we teach science to kids. They don't realize the incredible amount of evidence that needs to be gathered before a scientific theory is accepted. They don't realize the incredible scrutiny that a theory needs to undergo before it becomes as well established as evolution.

If we taught all three, many people would realize what complete nonsense creationism is and would eventually realize that everthing in the bible was complete nonsense. That would only make the world a better place in my opinion.

[MaxPower]

Remember that when Darwin published his theory people were not pre-disposed to believe it. In fact, most scientists did not want to believe it.

There were plenty of competing ideas at the time and it took a very long time for evolutionary theory to become what it is today. The reason evolutionary theory outlasted all of those other theories is that the evidence overwhelmingly supported it compared to the other theories. Evolution did a better job of accounting for all of the observations than the competing theories did.

It seems like the intelligent design people have no evidence other than to say that certain things are too complex to be created by evolution, so there must be a designer. No one is stopping them from proving their points and revolutionizing science just as Darwin did.

The problem is that this is not a scientific theory. It is creationism masquerading as science. In fact, these guys are anti-science.

[MaxPower]

Evolutionary theory does not purport to explain how life came to be. It does purport to explain how man came to be and that is where people have a problem with it.

[Dan Mezick]

NO. If you ask most evolutionists, they take it all the way back to the origin of life. On earth.

Ask Sklansky, see what he says.

[Dan Mezick]

How about a theory about the origin of life on earth?

Clearly evolution is a flawed theory along these lines.

Refining a species OK. Mutating new species, maybe, but on thin ice.

Origin of life? Sorry, it doesn't have any evidence.

Citing evolutionary evidence within a species, or the spawning of new species via mutation to support that same theory for explaining the origin of life is faulty logic on bad premises.

This makes more sense to me, as it is logical.

Cosmic Ancestry as a LOGICAL theory of life-origin on Earth

Come on people. Evolution is a kind of religion. Sheesh.

Can't we all just get along?

[MaxPower]

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NO. If you ask most evolutionists, they take it all the way back to the origin of life. On earth.

Ask Sklansky, see what he says.

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Of course evolution does stretch back to the origin of life - that is when evolution began.

But it does not explain what caused life to originate. In fact, some people criticize evolutionary theory for this.

There is still no theory that adequately explains how life originated. Even if the first organisms were brought to eart by space aliens, evolution has still ocurrred.

Just because the mechanism of evolution is proven, it does not mean that other mechanisms that might affect life on earth are ruled out.

If anyone is interested:
15 answers to creationsit nonsense

[MaxPower]

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How about a theory about the origin of life on earth?

Clearly evolution is a flawed theory along these lines.


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How can it be flawed when it does not have anything to say about the issue?

That's like saying Sklansky's Fundamental Theorem of Poker is flawed because it doesn't explain how poker originated.