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Old 09-24-2004, 12:44 AM
BreakEven BreakEven is offline
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Default How to beat tables with several check-callers?

Last few days have seen -75BB drop for a total -5BB after 1200 hands. Yes I know this isn't many hands or much of a drop but I expected to be doing better...not worse. I guess I'm keeping true to my alias and basically breaking even. I seem to have a problem when lots of check callers are present. Tonight, 5 people on average saw the flop. Little pre-flop raising. Any pre-flop raise was called and usually 3-4 people would check call to the river. I was "ambushed" with river check-raises by AA, KK (twice), and QQ. People were limping with powerful hands and raising UTG with hands like A6o. People were playing any face card, any suited, any connector, blah, blah, blah. Collectively they seemed to be a "force." I never knew what to expect. Anyone have any general suggestions for these situations?

I keep telling myself variance, variance, variance but I think it's more likely crappy poker on my part. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Anyway, I will post two groups of hands tomorrow for evaluation. Those I folded pre-showdown and those that went to showdown. Maybe the hand examples will explain why I have a really lousy winning percentage at showdown.

Thanks and goodnight all.
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Old 09-24-2004, 12:52 AM
cold_cash cold_cash is offline
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Default Re: How to beat tables with several check-callers?

Value bet more, semi-bluff less.

Stay away from crappy small/offsuit broadway hands; play more suited connector types.

Flop more sets.

Try to come up with ways to "protect your hand". (I know that's been done to death and basterdized o'plenty, but it's something you should be thinking about, especially at a table like the one you described.)

I'm sure there are many more.
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Old 09-24-2004, 12:52 AM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: How to beat tables with several check-callers?

Sarcastic answer:

1) rack up your chips
2) call my cell phone
3) get me into the game where 3-4 people will cold call raises pre flop, so I can get rich when suckers call me with bad hands.



Real answer:

value bet more. semibluff less.

variance variance variance.
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:05 AM
bisonbison bisonbison is offline
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Default Re: How to beat tables with several check-callers?

1200 hands. Hmmmm. Analogy time.

Your poker career is like the 100 meter dash. The finish line is what we all know as "the long run". At the moment, you have traveled roughly 1 meter. It is not time to be figuring out how fast you're going.
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