|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
QQ early... Push or Fold?
What do poker minds better then mine do in this situation?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font> SB (t1470) BB (t1720) <font color="C00000">Hero (t1740)</font> UTG+1 (t1265) MP1 (t1855) MP2 (t510) MP3 (t2055) <font color="C00000">CO (t1555)</font> Button (t1330) Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises to t660</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero ????</font> |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
It's a tough spot, but I would fold (unless you know your opponent to be wildly aggressive). You've still got plenty of time and chips to play with; big re-raises like that reek of AA or KK when the table is still full/close to full. Lower pairs would likely call or fold. My $.02
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
Well since I've only committed T100 at this point it now seems like the obvious move is to fold and wait for a better spot.
Patience razor patience. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
Is calling out of the question?
|
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
Yes. If I call what kind of flop am I hoping for? If the flop has no overcards I still fear AA or KK. And A or K on the flop means I fold so by calling I'm essentially playing the hand for a set. I'd be getting 3-1 on something with about 8-1 odds.
|
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
What limits are you playing at that you think a reraise is automatically AA or KK? Why not AK or AQ or even JJ? I have no idea if this is a good play, but how bad would it be to call, see a flop, and if it has no ace or king, push?
|
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
This is a tourney no-limit hand. I raise to T100, CO re-raises to T660. He isn't re-raising that much with my raise and a call with a piece of cheese. It costs me T560 to call in hopes of flopping a set to get the T905 already in the pot and the remaining T895 of his stack. I can't call in this situation.
|
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
[ QUOTE ]
so by calling I'm essentially playing the hand for a set. I'd be getting 3-1 on something with about 8-1 odds. [/ QUOTE ] that doesnt sound right - if i call i'm pushing if no A or K flops i think fold is a decent choice - given you will get called by AK if you push pre-flop i can live with call and adopt the aformentioned plan stripsqueez - chickenhawk |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter
saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="C00000">Hero (t800)</font> MP3 (t800) <font color="C00000">CO (t660)</font> <font color="C00000">Button (t510)</font> SB (t1350) <font color="C00000">BB (t800)</font> UTG (t770) UTG+1 (t800) UTG+2 (t800) MP1 (t710) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls t15, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t150</font>, CO calls t150, Button calls t150, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t135, UTG folds, Hero ? I could not beleive 3 people called a raise and a re-raise. What a bunch of morons. I decided to call and push any flop that didn't have A or K. But ATo flopped trips, so I was gone. Amusingly the ATo guy quadrupled up on two other people who additionally also went all-in with flush draws. Now I wish I had re-re-raised all-in preflop. MP3 confessed to having JJ, and maybe pushing would have kept the ATo guy from calling. I would have beat the KQs and the JJ (and the 87s!) had they called. But this is being results-oriented I guess. |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Re: QQ early... Push or Fold?
I'll push 100% of the time in this situation after a re-raise and two callers.
|
|
|