2-4 hand

[Clarkmeister]

I thought this hand might be of interest to the forum. 2-4 online.

4 limpers to me in the SB with AsKs. I raise, BB folds and everyone else calls. 4.5BBs and 4 players.

Flop: Qs 5h 6h. I bet, EP calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises, I call, EP calls. 7.5BBs and 3 players.

Turn: 2c. I check, EP checks, CO bets, I raise, EP folds, CO calls.

River: 5d. I check, CO checks, MHIG.

[arkady]

Clark,

What was the thought process on the turn, how were you so sure that he was on a draw?

p.s. you play 2/4 online?

[Clarkmeister]

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p.s. you play 2/4 online?

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No. I was at a friends house trying to help him tinker with his game, and I played for a while while he watched to help us identify where he was playing differently and might be able to change some stuff.

[arkady]

Ahh, thats what I figured. I also thought you got stressed out from your usual game and went down to 2/4 to blow off some steam...that at least explain the turn check raise. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Clarkmeister]

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Ahh, thats what I figured. I also thought you got stressed out from your usual game and went down to 2/4 to blow off some steam...

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No, nice try though. I said I wanted to help my friend

[arkady]

that is very fortunate friend to be receiving such assistance.

[Ed Miller]

Ahh, thats what I figured. I also thought you got stressed out from your usual game and went down to 2/4 to blow off some steam...that at least explain the turn check raise.

Guys, this is not a joke or "blowing off steam." This is a correct play that YOU GUYS SHOULD BE MAKING. If you think it's a "blowing off steam" play, then you should pay a LOT of attention to the thinking in this thread.

About a month ago, J. A. Sucker suggested that I include a hand example in the book that was VERY similar to this one (and included raising the turn with unimproved AK). I thought it was a great idea, but unfortunately the book was already too far along to add that much new content.

This thread really makes me wish that I had gotten it in there... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[arkady]

Yikes, ouch Ed! I dont think anyone suggested that this is an incorrect play, my point was simply that it seemed overly aggressive against an unknown player out of position.

Seems like Clark just assumes that everyone on the internet is psychotic and seems to be answering with his own dose of aggression. Yet it was my understanding that the best antidote for such behavior is to do the opposite.

On an unrelated note, you should have put the example in the book - no doubt about that.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

went down to 2/4 to blow off some steam...that at least explain the turn check raise.

No, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like a more punishing defense against a semi-bluff than just reraising the flop.

[Clarkmeister]

"how were you so sure that he was on a draw?"

I wasn't *so* sure. I just thought that it was a reasonable possibility. I don't need to be anywhere near 100% sure to make this play.