Baby NL Home game. Call all-in with QQ?

ScottTheFish · #1 06-24-2004, 02:57 PM

$20 max. buy-in NL home game. 6 handed. blinds ar .25/.50. I have about $45. Pick up QQ in the CO. folded to me I make it $2 to go, which is my standard raise.

Button, who I have never played with but seems decent. aggressive but not crazy goes all-in (~$20)

SB (~$15) who loves to call big bets with marginal hands and gamble, calls.

I was 90% sure I had the SB beat, he would call with any decent Ace and almost any pair.

Button did not seem over aggressive, but I did believe he would make this move with less than AA or KK. How much less I wasn't sure.

Can I possibly lay down QQ here? Only 2 hands are better, only 6 hands were dealt, and I'm getting almost 2-1 on my money.

Manimal · #2 06-24-2004, 04:34 PM

Call. You don't have any reads saying that he absolutely has a hand that beats you, so odds are pretty good that you're getting your money in when you're the favorite. What more can you ask for?

schwza · #3 06-24-2004, 04:36 PM

I'd call. Generally people in a home game do some bizarre things. Against good competition I'd fold.

2283 · #4 06-24-2004, 04:39 PM

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You don't have any reads saying that he absolutely has a hand that beats you, so odds are pretty good that you're getting your money in when you're the favorite.

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if i have a 60% chance of being a small favorite and a 40% chance of being a big dog, i fold.

the other player being a maniac would be the reason i would call, not the fact that i thought QQ was "probably" good against the first guy to go allin.

tdomeski · #5 06-25-2004, 01:17 AM

I think there is an even better chance you are a big favorite or a small favorite and not a big dog. . .

I think most guys look at JJ and TT the same way some of us look at KK and AA. . . IMO you call and laugh as he flips his JJ face up. . . .

2283 · #6 06-25-2004, 02:49 AM

maybe. "aggressive but not crazy" to me means "dont make a huge overbet preflop with JJ-TT etc." but i have a problem with assuming that people are tighter than they are.

Manimal · #7 06-25-2004, 05:09 PM

You're leaving out the times that he's going to be a big favorite(JJ and TT), which, according to his read, are just as likely as the times he will be a big dog. Furthermore, as someone else said, the all-in seems like a "go away" bet,something he's probably not making with AA or KK.

bingledork · #8 06-24-2004, 05:03 PM

Since the SB called, I would lay it down. It's probably +EV to call, but it's a lot of variance. Otherwise I would call just to see what cards he's going all-in with. Since it's a home game you'll be able to develop reads on all your opponents. Against some players its a good play to call this bet, and against others it's bad. This is a stranger, and I'd rather learn his style without risking my stack.

mplspoker · #9 06-24-2004, 05:09 PM

In a home game no limit i would always call with queens.. no question. in casino - no, but he could have something as pitiful as ajsuited....

TripKings · #10 06-24-2004, 05:28 PM

IMHO if you think you have the best hand call. You seem unsure of the button. Against two players it may be tough to win unimproved. With your current info I would pick a different spot with the info you will receive - the most powerful element for most people is not knowing.... this is taken out of the equation since you'll get to see all 9 cards and they will not see yours if you fold. In a home game of 6 it is tough to lay this down - I say you called and lost to AA, KK or a spiked A.