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Old 05-18-2004, 07:08 PM
Chris Alger Chris Alger is offline
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Default Middle East Terrorists Kill 20. Bush: oh well

Every terrorist is at war with civilization, and every group or nation that aids them is equally responsible for the murders that the terrorists commit. President Bush yesterday, addressing Israel lobbyist AIPAC

On the heels of Powell’s demand that Arab leaders more forcefully condemn terrorism, U.S. officials in both parties continue to relish America’s role as chief patron of the most hated terrorists in the region, the Israeli Occupation Forces.

Israel's military killed 18-20 people yesterday to accomplish what Amnesty International calls “grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention” and “war crimes,” namely the continued mass destruction of civilian housing. Senior Labor MP joined EU, UN and Arab protests, accusing the Israeli armed forces of “slaughtering large numbers of Palestinians day after day, and demolishing huge numbers of homes ... in violation of international law and human decency.” No suicide bombers were killed or appartently even targeted, but they managed to shoot up an ambulance pretty well, as the following photograph attests. In Newspeak, this is called “self-defense” in the “war against terror.”

From the Beruit Daily Star: <ul type="square"> Israel's Army killed at least 20 Palestinians on Tuesday in the heaviest raid inside the Gaza Strip for years, as tanks and infantry thrust into the Rafah refugee camp despite an international outcry.
The assault on the camp drew UN and EU condemnation because of Israeli threats to destroy hundreds of Palestinian homes in the area, while Arab governments said the tactics constituted war crimes.

The Israeli Army claimed there were no plans for systematic demolition during what it called an open-ended operation to stop the smuggling of weapons through tunnels from nearby Egypt.
US President George W. Bush called the Gaza bloodshed "troubling" but, addressing Jewish-Americans in a tight election campaign, told the powerful pro-Israel lobby group the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) that Israel "has every right to defend itself from terror."
The raid exacted the highest single-day Palestinian death toll - militants and civilians alike - since May 2002, when 23 were killed in an army sweep into the nearby Khan Younis area.[/list]Palestinian sources described the action as follows: “The Israeli military broke into many houses in Bedir and Tel Sultan neighborhoods and occupied the roofs, opening fire on any people in the streets. The Israeli military also targeted the electrical stations, shooting out the electricity in most Rafah neighborhoods. The tanks on Salah Adiin Road are opening fire at cars and people on this main street, and in the western neighborhood in Sofia area. Those soldiers detained three ambulances and held their M16s at the medics through the ambulance windows. Iraeli occupation forces attacked an ambulance while it carried injured patients to the European Hospital in the northeast of Rafah, and detained another ambulance on its way. (Palestine News Network)

CBS described one incident, when 13-year-old Ahmed Mughayer and his 16-year-old sister Asma “were killed when they ventured onto the roof of their three-story apartment building to bring in the laundry, their father Mohammed said. The family said the teenagers were hit by shots fired from an Israeli army position on the sixth floor of the neighboring building.”

Predictably and no doubt intentionally, the vast majority of victims were civilians. According to CNN, "The incursion left 20 Palestinians dead and 35 wounded, according to Palestinian security and hospital sources. The dead included three members of Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a military offshoot of Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, and two children, the sources said. The remaining dead were civilians, they said."

The carnage hewed closely to the pattern followed by Israeli terrorists for the last four years, during which “almost all of the 2,886 Palestinian fatalities since September 2000 have been civilians, about eighty of them “collateral damage” to 230 extrajudicial assassinations, which are themselves violations ofthe Fourth Geneva Convention.” (Stanford Professor of Middle East history Joel Beinin in this week's Nation).
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Old 05-18-2004, 07:32 PM
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LOL. You never cease to amaze me with your "logic."

Oh, sorry Gamblor hasn't responded yet. Guess I was a little premature.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:27 AM
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The logic is right on the money. Not really much to be amazed about.

Now Gamblor -- he/she/it is truly an amazing mass of illogic and contradictions.
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:23 AM
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This coming from someone who claims that the Israelis turned religion into the defining characteristic of this war, after Jews have been exiled, pushed around, beaten, forcibly converted, and murdered, for two thousand years, all for the crime of being Jewish, at the hands of the English, the Germans, the Spanish, the Polish, the Russians, and the Arabs.

But it's Israel that turned religion into an issue.
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Old 05-20-2004, 01:08 AM
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Bloody heck, even you cant tell the difference between an argument against Israel and an argument against Jews.

Israel is a "secular" state founded for religious purposes. It is the central and only cause of all the violence in the middle east.

Now your normal reaction to this statement -- so what did the Jews do to you? Why dont you like the Jew?

Who makes it a religious argument?

You truly are an imbecile. If the IDF is populated by the likes of you, no wonder they are happy to kill young boys and girls.
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Old 05-20-2004, 02:54 AM
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ACPlayer: "Israel is a "secular" state founded for religious purposes. It is the central and only cause of all the violence in the middle east."

Uh...right. Israel is the reason why Iraq invaded Iran and Kuwait, and if it weren't for Israel, all the Arab states would get along with each other just great, just like they always have.
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Old 05-18-2004, 08:19 PM
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This is the stuff that gets people so angry at the US. It coddles its allies (in this case, Israel) and has a different standard for "terrorism" and "ethnic cleansing" depending on whether you are in Iraq, Cyprus, Kosovo, Afghanistan, or the gaza strip. People around the world see this and then see Bush talk grandiosely about freedom and democracy and know he is full of crap.
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Old 05-18-2004, 09:03 PM
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I bet this post really impressed your Hamas, PLO, and Al Qaeda friends.

Hell, I bet it might even get you some sort of year end award in your Hamas Support Group. maybe something like, "American Who Hates His Country the Most Award" or maybe "Best US Citizen in support of Suicide Bombers"
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:00 PM
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Do you really believe anyone who criticizes US foreign policy backs Al Qaeda and Hamas? Why do you associate the two? Because Rush Limbaugh told you to?
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:11 PM
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No, I believe Alger is a terrorist supporter and I believe he hates the U.S. and wishes it harm based on his long history of anti-American posts.

In a recent post he called someone that would sabatoge a U.S. military mission a hero and in another recent post he called a U.S. soldier that died in the line of duty a idiot who deserves to be slapped.

BTW - your argument is a weak one and can just as easily be turned. "So, you think that everyone who criticizes the war is being patriotic? Or,is that just what Michael Moore told you?"
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