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Old 04-26-2004, 11:46 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Thirty-four AAs

Of the 34 times I've had pocket aces, I've raised preflop and merely stolen the blinds 6 times. A few more times I had one or two callers to put a SB in to see the flop, but then folded the next street that I bet on. (I tried a variety of slowplaying post-flop to see if I could induce bluffs.)

I read recently winning the blinds with AA was "a catastrophe". What techniques should I consider to avoid this? I've heard of limp-reraising, but I've never done it. What positions would you try this from, and what kind of table conditions?

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Old 04-27-2004, 12:08 AM
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I read recently winning the blinds with AA was "a catastrophe".

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I hate this friggin' line.

It sounds like you're not raising enough hands preflop, nor betting enough hands postflop. Just a guess if you're not getting much action on your aces.

But you dont mention the other 20+ times you played them. How did those do? You dont always get action when you raise.

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Old 04-27-2004, 12:19 AM
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I hate this friggin' line.

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True, winning is never awful.

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It sounds like you're not raising enough hands preflop

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Hmm, 7.45 PFR. About average?

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nor betting enough hands postflop

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Aggression factor 0.38 / 1.70 / 1.85 / 2.10. I have no friggin clue where these numbers stand.

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But you dont mention the other 20+ times you played them. How did those do?

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2.5bb/hand. Winning a whopping 82%. (My win rate was exactly half that at .5/1!)
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Old 04-27-2004, 12:44 AM
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Hmm, 7.45 PFR. About average?


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Is this a %? It looks a little low if it is. Maybe not. If its the % of hands you raise preflop when you see the flop, i think it looks kind of low. Id have to see your preflop raising standards to be sure. You may just not be getting many raising hands.

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Aggression factor 0.38 / 1.70 / 1.85 / 2.10. I have no friggin clue where these numbers stand.


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I have no idea what these numbers mean. But someone else may know. I think they represent the 4 streets. But other than that...

Unfortunately, stats dont tell us/me how you play certain hands. Like, non AA hands. Or how you approach certain hands preflop. The stats dont indicate the situations presented.

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Old 04-27-2004, 03:01 AM
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Damn lol, my aces are getting me 1.06 bb/hand. I'm only winning em about 55% of the time. Going through a real bad streak with em, and only 7k hands in PT, so I know it'll even out overtime. I cant wait, my aces cant get any worse :P
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:29 AM
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Is this a %? It looks a little low if it is. Maybe not. If its the % of hands you raise preflop when you see the flop, i think it looks kind of low. Id have to see your preflop raising standards to be sure. You may just not be getting many raising hands.


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This I imagine is a Pokertracker stat. It is % of your TOTAL hands you have raised. This is actually a decent %.

DDubois - Your aggression factors look a little low post flop. Its possible that when opponents see you goping nuts with the aces that they get the clue. Try playing your hands a little harder postflop. Show down a few mediocre hands.

Having said all this also remember your sample size is very small. I've had AA 227 times and I barely have enough history to make a ballpark guess on how AA will perform long term. Your AA BB/100 looks in line so I would say you just need more hands for your sample.

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Old 04-27-2004, 12:44 AM
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2.5bb/hand.

I think this is pretty close. Mines like 2.8 or so but you've only had it 34 times. You dont have anything to worry about. Some days you take the blinds down every time, some days they get cracked every time, and some days you win a monster pot from some guy with KK who refused to stop raising and scared you into just calling down and now you're thinking about all the bets you missed.
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Old 04-27-2004, 04:46 AM
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I'm at 2.85, with 199 hands. Not much higher than yours. How much do you want to win?
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Old 04-27-2004, 04:51 AM
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I'm at 2.85, with 199 hands. Not much higher than yours. How much do you want to win?

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As much as possible? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:44 AM
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I don't know what limit you're playing at, but based on your aggression numbers I'd like to suggest that you may be limping in to too many pots preflop. With a PF aggression number of 0.38, this equates to limping (and completing SB) of about 19.75%, which means that your VP$IP is about 27%. Generally speaking, I think that this may be too high.

If you are seen to be limping in this often, it is possible that people may give you credit for a strong hand when you DO raise. Aside from the other reasons for not limping so often, this may be another symptom of these plays.
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