All-in vs. blinds

[David BB]

A very common situation but not much talked about in this forum. I'd like to know what you all think of this push.

Theres a point to this - I'll elaborate later.

Its down to 3 players in a 30$ NL SnG at Party:

100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 3343219) - Fri Apr 23 05:43:02 EDT 2004
Table Table 11038 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: colvone (3325)
Seat 4: David_BB (2175)
Seat 10: KCDimondDave (2500)
David_BB posts small blind (50)
KCDimondDave posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to David_BB [ Kd, Jc ]
colvone folds.
David_BB raises (2125) to 2175
David_BB is all-In.

[37offsuit]

It depends on whether third pays anything or not.

[David BB]

Price structure is 50%, 30%, 20% - like always in Party SnGs [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[TylerD]

I don't like it, its a huge overbet. In other words you are risking too much to gain the blinds. You are only likely to get called by a better hand, if you're going to play I'd prefer a 3BB raise or 4BB raise, something you can get away from.

[PrayingMantis]

As TylerD said, this is a huge over bet. It might make some sense only if you strongly believe that BB will call you here with an inferior hand. This is not very probable, and since you didn't mention anything specific about BB's calling standarts, this push looks like a mistake.

Blinds are still pretty low, and you are risking more than 2000 to win 150. Much better to raise 3-4xBB.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

It might make some sense only if you strongly believe that BB will call you here with an inferior hand.

How inferior can his hand be? Against T9s, you're less than a 3-2 favorite.

[PrayingMantis]

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It might make some sense only if you strongly believe that BB will call you here with an inferior hand.


[/ QUOTE ] How inferior can his hand be? Against T9s, you're less than a 3-2 favorite.

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You are right, of course, however, in the improbable case when you know your opponent is weak enough to call all-ins with low Kx, Q-high, J-high, T-high, and low-connectors, pushing with KJo might make sense. I'm sure that's not the case here (this rare and beloved kind of fish don't really get to the final-3 in a 33$ SNG) - that's why pushing here is certainly a wrong move.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

In this specific example, with the chip positions and blind level given, I would not want to risk my whole stack on a 3-2 shot. Given the right circumstances, I would take the gamble in a heartbeat, but not here.

[PrayingMantis]

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In this specific example, with the chip positions and blind level given, I would not want to risk my whole stack on a 3-2 shot. Given the right circumstances, I would take the gamble in a heartbeat, but not here.


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I guess you are right. And there will probably be a better spot to play strong against this very weak opponent.

[josie_wales]

Overkill pal.

You are trying to buy the blinds. You can do that with a 500-1000 rasie. Preferably the lower the better so as to enable you to get away from it.

I prefer in this case, to rasie to 350 or so, then bet 500-600 regardless of the flop.

This way you can:
a) Win the blinds = good
b) See a flop with several hundred in the pot, and take it down with a bet = good
c) Get away after EITHER stage with only at most a 1000 chip loss.

JW