Choicepoker will probably close down in near future

[Elizabeth-Anne]

Choicepoker is an absolute ghost town.

Last time I checked there were 7 people logged in.

I don't see how they can last very long, they won't be making enough money to pay for overhead.

Their dumb rebate program only counts the hands where you actually put money in the pot. It's horrendous if you're a solid player who sees ~20% of flops.

People should not join or deposit money into choicepoker. They're not making money and they will probably close down. After they go bust, they may very well go the way of dutch boyd.

[rusty JEDI]

Assuming online poker sites work like many other businesses there shouldnt be much problem.

When a business starts up they usually dont expect to make money instantly or even break even. That is why part of the business plan is to start with enough funds to make it through a rough start. I am guessing even if choice never makes a single dollar it will be open over a year.

Secondly, I hope that Choice was smart enogh to have players accounts money held seperate so that in the event they go bankrupt your money doesnt go with it. Hopefully the choice poster can confirm this.

rJ

[Choice1]

Jedi-

You are right in your accessments. Any online poker room opening today should expect to see a loss before seeing a profit. Thats true with almost any business. And certainly we keep players funds seperate from marketing funds. I expect that most all poker rooms are wise enough to understand the importance of that.

As to the originator of this thread, we personally did not see her/his comments as necessary of a response. Its unfortunate that while we attempt to support and encourage this forum, there are members who are so negative as Elizabeth for no apparent reason but to try to incite. I think this is precisely why other representatives from other poker rooms have expressed to me there reasoning for not attempting to have open dialog with players on this forum. Thats unfortunate because we think used properly a forum is a wonderful way to communicate.

Best regards,

Jon Comer

[Lori]

I think this is precisely why other representatives from other poker rooms have expressed to me there reasoning for not attempting to have open dialog with players on this forum.

Strangely Mike O'Malley seems to think otherwise, the site he represents gets around 15000 players, and you get 10.

The Gaming Club took harsh critisism here, but are in the process of using that to improve their site.

NightorDay also posted here, but unfortunately a dialog involves a two way debate in an open manner and this particular site refused to compromise in any way, they didn't do very well.

True Poker have always listened on this forum, but they took a real pounding due to a tournament fiasco, and for now are not posting.
I believe they have still done okay from listening here.

We are your customers, we are not your only customers, but we are certainly in the top bracket of most informed customers.
You don't have to give much, or even anything away to get good feedback here, but you do need to be able to accept constructive critisism for what it is.

If people get overly harsh, that is because they have 180 different front ends to choose from, some of which will listen to the players.

Lori

[Choice1]

Lori,

I think you know we welcome feedback and have tried to use some of the feedback we have gotten. And more changes are on the way.

If you can help us find constructive criticism in the original posters comments, we will be more than happy to listen.

You are correct, many sites do have representatives here and thats great. But from much feedback I have gotten, I believe that number could be a lot greater.

Regards,

Jon Comer

[Inthacup]

if you're a solid player who sees ~20% of flops.


Is this the measuring stick for a solid player?




Cup

[moondogg]

No, but I would say that an average of seeing 20% of flops (assuming a typical, full game) is an attribute common to most solid players. Some may see 25%-30%, but the point is still valid.
I don't think the original poster was attempting to imply that seeing 20% of flops itself makes you a solid player.

Mooney

[Pokeraddict]

I did not get a good vibe there. My first cashout took two days, the second took MUCH longer. When you cashout it says 96 hours. Not a good thing for a new room. One place I play at is just as small that cashes out in less then an hour during business hours and another mid sized that takes just a few hours no matter what time of day. Why 96 hours? I didnt even bother to try and work off my last $50 in promo $$.

[Choice1]

Pokeraddict,

I believe you communicated with our customer support staff on this issue. I believe they provided you with an explanation, but in case they did not I will answer your concern again.

We originally did have a 48 hour cashout policy. We later changed it to 96 hours due to several players who were caught chip dumping on heads up tables. This was changed after the loss of thousands of dollars.

We plan on changing this back in the future, but we must make decisions that are in the long term interest of our companies success. Obviously players want quick payouts. If our fraud prevention measures gives you a bad feeling we respect your decision not to play at ChoicePoker.com until the payout period is again 48 hours.

Regards,

Jon Comer

[Pokeraddict]

This is actually the only response I received from Choice. I guess what you are saying is that 1 person bought in on a stolen credit card or charged back on you. This is unfortunate and I know a part of doing internet casino business. I cant think of any other way a chip dumping would matter since it gets raked. I know ACR had issues with chip dumping but it was because the promo system gave the cash to play with before it qualified to cash out, choice's PB system isnt like that.