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Old 02-23-2004, 03:14 AM
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Default Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

This otherwise excellent essay is a bit light on explanations for some of the content. In particluar, I am trying to understand the ff table:

Tight Game Opening Strategy
Raise and call 2: QQ JJ TT KQs KTs JTs
Raise and call 1: 77 QJs KJs AQ AJ
Limp-reraise/raise & call: AKs AQs AK
Limp & call 1: 66 55 A9s A8s A7s KQ
Limp-reraise: AA KK 99 88 AJs ATs

Specifically, are there positional responses implied in here? If so, what are they? If not, what's the point of listing, say, QQ JJ TT? (Surely TT implies everything better?)

Any insights would be appreciated.

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Old 02-23-2004, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

If I recall correctly, this was for UTG.
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Old 02-23-2004, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

If it's for a specific position, the only one it cannot be for is UTG, since he inclides limping as one of the actions.
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Old 02-23-2004, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

If it's for a specific position, the only one it cannot be for is UTG, since he inclides limping as one of the actions.

It can be for UTG because Abdul advocates limp-re-raising. But he states earlier in the essay that this chart is for general opening, and should be tightened up in EP, and loosened in LP if the blinds are tight, but not if the game is loose.
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Old 02-23-2004, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

Thanks. This was helpful.
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Old 02-23-2004, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

UTG can open-limp. I don't think you need other people to call in front of you for your call to be called a limp.

I believe the table is meant to be for EP - but you are right that it does not specify this. If you want more detailed guidance on opening standards by position, there is another table in the essay that shows his recommended requirements by position. I think the key points in the table you reproduce are that (i) it relates to opening; (ii) he is telling you how to mix it up in a tight game; and (iii) he likes to go for limp-reraises with megahands.

The last point explains why QQ JJ and TT all get mentioned under the first line in the table - because he believes AA and KK deserve a limp-reraise approach.
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Old 02-23-2004, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

"UTG can open-limp. I don't think you need other people to call in front of you for your call to be called a limp."
OK. I had never thought of it this way.

"I believe the table is meant to be for EP - but you are right that it does not specify this. If you want more detailed guidance on opening standards by position, there is another table in the essay that shows his recommended requirements by position."
Correct. However, I was looking for suggestions on when to raise pre-flop in situations where someone had already opened the betting. Also, when to cold - call. I see now that these tables cannot help me with that.
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Old 02-23-2004, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

The article also contains charts for playing after one tight limper on the button and after five loose limpers on the button. There is also a section titled "Facing a Raiser", which discusses playing after a raiser and playing after a loose steal raiser.
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

I think that is the strategy if you are opening, under the table I think he gives examples of what to do dependant on your position.
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Old 02-23-2004, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Interpreting \"HE Preflop Atrategy According to Abdul\"

The table ifor opening-you are correct. But my question is, how do you interpret the content? If you look at the specific example you will see that they do not offer any insights inti how to use the table information.
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