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Old 02-22-2004, 06:13 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Hi Everyone:

I played poker earlier this evening for the first time this month. The game was $80-$160 at The Bellagio.

Even though it was a full table, everyone passed to me and I raised on the button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Both blinds called.

The flop was Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6:[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] giving me the nut flush draw and a gutshot straiht draw. Everyone checked.

The turn was the 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. The small blind checked, the big blind bet, I raised, the small blind folded, and the player in the big blind called.

The river was the 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] giving me the nut flush. My opponent checked, I bet, and he folded.

All comments welcome.

Best wishes,
Mason
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Old 02-22-2004, 06:44 AM
Franchise (TTT) Franchise (TTT) is offline
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Seems to me you're playing it like you don't have a diamond, and have a vulnerable hand (big pocket pair, top pair) you want to protect but only when the turn card isn't a diamond.

Too bad you didn't get paid off.
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:11 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Hi TTT:

Doesn't it look like I played it like I flopped the nut flush. With a big pair, wouldn't I want to bet a small diamond out of the pot?

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Mason
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Old 02-22-2004, 07:13 AM
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if you bet the flop and neither of them had a pair or a diamond you might of won it then

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Old 02-22-2004, 07:39 AM
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Hi Mason,

I guess I don't see any reason not to bet out on the flop and see if you can pick up the pot there. If you encounter resistance in the form of a checkraise, at least you know where you stand.

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Old 02-22-2004, 05:24 PM
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Garland & Co.,

I think Mason has enough outs to allow the flop being checked thru, thus inducing the bluff on the turn. He then raises and is only called. I think he would have won this one on the river regardless of another [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] hitting or not.
Net reult 2 extra BB vs. none if he wins it outright on the flop.


Tim
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:33 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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"I think he would have won this one on the river regardless of another hitting or not."

youre wrong. or else why would the bb have called the turn. mason was likely beat on the flop and turn.
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:59 PM
TJSWAN TJSWAN is offline
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Mike i,

Why didn't BB 3 bet then ??
Coulnd't BB be bluffing?


PS. Enjoy your posts.

Tim
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Old 02-22-2004, 06:30 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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"Why didn't BB 3 bet then??"

because he's scared of the chance mason does really have a big hand. btw big hand here does not have to mean flush or full house or even trip 6s. big hand could still be big pair. that river bricks and bet you anything we see mason lose to a pair of Qs or Js more often than not.

"Coulnd't BB be bluffing?"

if he's bluffing then why would he call the turn raise? he would just fold. or he could be waiting to try and bluff the river, but wouldnt the river then be a terrific card to bluff on? he could also be drawing to something like KT or T9. but i think more often than not he has a pair.
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:14 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Hi TJSWAN:

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I think he would have won this one on the river regardless of another [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] hitting or not.

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One thing for sure. If a blank hits on the river it needs to be bet again.

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Mason
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