switch to no limit

[daryn]

hey, i'm making a decent amount of money at the 10-20 and 15-30 6 max games on party poker.. around 2 bb/hr/table. recently i've been playing in the 100 and 200 NL games on party, and i'm liking it a lot. i'm wondering if the earn is comparable to what i'm making playing limit.

obviously it has a lot to do with how well i play NL, but in a general sense how much do you think is a reasonable earn in these games?

[Iceman]

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hey, i'm making a decent amount of money at the 10-20 and 15-30 6 max games on party poker.. around 2 bb/hr/table. recently i've been playing in the 100 and 200 NL games on party, and i'm liking it a lot. i'm wondering if the earn is comparable to what i'm making playing limit.

obviously it has a lot to do with how well i play NL, but in a general sense how much do you think is a reasonable earn in these games?

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If you can earn 2 BB/hr in 10-20 and 15-30, then stick to those. You won't do nearly as well in the $100 NL and $200 NL unless the games are very soft, which they rarely are. Even for an expert, NL earn isn't too high unless you have one or more idiots in the game (much more common at NL$25 than NL$100 or NL$200). $15/hr in NL$100 would be on the high side for a long-term win rate - I suspect $10/hr is more common. NL$25 is great for a player on a small bankroll or who can't beat harder limit games. If you only play at peak times, or if you hit and run really soft games, then you might find NL$100 to be worthwhile.

[Shaun]

You'd be surprised how lucrative the 100$ max no limit games at Party can be- but I don't know if it will match what you make playing 10-20 and 15-30. I played 5-10 only for a while then moved into the NL games and found them to be much better for my game and more profitable.

You may not make quite as much at this level of no limit as you did in 10-20 and 15-30, but IMO NL is less volatile and more fun.

[Iceman]

"You'd be surprised how lucrative the 100$ max no limit games at Party can be- but I don't know if it will match what you make playing 10-20 and 15-30. I played 5-10 only for a while then moved into the NL games and found them to be much better for my game and more profitable. You may not make quite as much at this level of no limit as you did in 10-20 and 15-30, but IMO NL is less volatile and more fun."

Actually, I've played loads of $100 NL, and find that while it is a low variance, safe return, the return PER UNIT TIME is much less than I expected, and I can do better in SNGs or in limit games. I play mostly at off-peak times, and the NL games then rarely have enough action to provide a significant return. At $25 you get lots of idiots who shoot off their stacks quickly, but at $100 you rarely see those, and an expert player's win rate from rocks is small.

[Ulysses]

I think $40/hr is a reasonable goal in the NL200.

[Redhot_man]

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I think $40/hr is a reasonable goal in the NL200.

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The $200 NL at Party is a rock garden. Half the time the pot avegare is around $50. Got guys like xasunt and diving duck seeing 17% of the flops.

[Ulysses]

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The $200 NL at Party is a rock garden.

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I disagree, but I've only played in this game evenings and weekends.

[TheGrifter]

If you really want to play NL seriously there are bigger games out there on the net. I know Prima generally has at least one game of 5/10 or above (usually at least one 10/20 or 15/30 going) and I've noticed some people really cleaning up on these tables. (The few times I've played there I've just been cleaned out)

At 15/30 the max buy in is $3000 and I've noticed a few players who consistently have 5 figures in front of them.

I've seen Fossilman at the higher level NL tables, maybe he can weigh in on the expectation for an expert player.

[daryn]

yeah maybe eventually but for now the nl 200 on party is as high as i can play with my limited experience

[TheGrifter]

Naturally. I just wanted to point out that those who are making a living playing NL probably aren't doing it at a 200 max buy in. (Although if Ulysses thinks 40 an hour is reasonable maybe they are)