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I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
Kinda loose player opens for a raise UTG. Tight -n- aggressive player sitting on his immediate left makes it three bets. The very next player cold calls with an I-was-gonna-raise-but-now-I-ain't look on his face. Everyone else folds.
I'm in the BB and glance at my cards, just to make sure I don't have a monster. I have AKo and muck it. My reasons: 1) I think UTG+1 has pocket queens or better AND plays well postflop. 2) UTG+2 has pocket sevens or higher/AK/AQs/AJs. 3) UTG might actually have a hand. 4) I'm gonna be first to act on later rounds. 5) I think the next best alternative to folding is to cap the preflop betting and dark bet the flop. 6) I have a feeling that my pair outs are dead and/or I'm against multiple draws to set trips. Did I wuss out? Did I make a wise fold? (It's hard for me to tell, because I saw the rest of the hand played out and knowing the results colors my perception of the whole event.) |
#2
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
If you really read UTG+1 for QQ or better and believe there is a good chance of strength in the other two hands, I don't think letting AKo go is such a bad play. Especially if the players' raising and calling standards make it likely that some of your outs are tied up.
Edit: To be fair, I'm not sure I would have laid it down despite what I said. SpaceAce |
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
I am wondering why you put UTG+1 on pocket QQ or better. If the guy plays well like you say, and the UTG raiser is a loose raiser, I would think he would 3 bet very lightly here. . .
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
I think folding ak here in the bb is giving up way way way too much. You probably have at least one of these players dominated, you might even have the 3 bettor dominated if he has aq. You might have the best hand. Its incredibly likely that you have the best hand if an ace or a king hits. I think capping and dark betting is the worst thing you can do though. Your not winning this pot if you miss. So call pre-flop and checkraise a flop that hits you otherwise check fold. And just because the flop came rags and utg+1 had kk doesnt make your play correct.
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
Tight-aggressives don't 3-bet lightly from early position no matter who the UTG raiser is.
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
Maybe "light" is not the right word, but if one is using QQ as a minimum 3 betting hand, that's clearly not correct. . .
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why I put UTG+1 on QQ or better
'cuz that guy cold-calls an EP raise with JJ/TT/AKo/AQs and re-raises with QQ/KK/AA. I don't know what he does with AKs in that spot, but I know enough to be confident that he's either tied (+flush draw freeroll) or ahead.
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#8
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
Well from what you say it seems that UTG+1 would reraise with a variety of hands to isolate the UTG raiser. That seems to indicate to me that your AK has a good shot of being the best hand. The cold call from UTG+2 is worrying, but if he had a true monster (like QQ,KK,AA) he would have capped. I'd cap preflop.
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
Having AK makes it tough for the 3-better to have AA or KK, which is what you're primarily worried about. At least take the flop, it's likely you're good if an A or K flops.
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Re: I, uh, fold?!? Yeah, I fold!
I'd have folded too. I'd add reason number seven: You have no pair.
I'd discount the possibility that UTG+1 is raising loose just because he knows UTG is kinda loose. UTG+1 still realizes he's UTG+1 and would likely save his looser 3-bets for when he has later position. |
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