RGP animosity question

M2d · #1 09-24-2003, 04:43 AM

Where does their hate for 2+2 come from? Now, I realize that there have been certain individuals in the past who have had run ins with Mason or David, but there seems to be some overwhelming consensus there that 2+2 give faulty advice, and that the poker content on RGP is loads better/more acurate.
Now, I look at RGP through google which displays 25 threads per page, newest to oldest. Scrolling through the first few pages, I'm reading about television shows and movies, president bush (ad nauseum), various get rich quick schemes, WPT and other tournament errata (non-strategic, trivial stuff), trolls, cheating, personal insults, why 2+2 sucks, online rooms ads (from shills), and other assorted non strategy related threads.
In the first four pages (100 threads), I've seen only two suited connector questions, two hand discussions, an interesting discussion (started by vince) about skill level needed for varous structures, and a tournament hand discussion that could qualify as "strategy" related. even then, one of the suited connector threads was more of a statistics question than a strategy one.
additionally, these threads were, for the most part, the least responded to

where, exactly, is all this brilliant poker advice on RGP, and who are the ones giving it?

Rick Nebiolo · #2 09-24-2003, 05:22 AM

If you have a fast newsfeed and good newsreader (I use Forte Agent) you can put watch filters on those who are consistantly worth reading (e.g., Howard Lederer, Calahan MacCool, Speed Racer aka aka, Mike McClain, Paul Phillips) and kill filters on the people who post little but garbage (actually I don't use the kill filters). Agent makes skimming RGP and isolating on the worthwhile posts a breeze.

IMO RGP is good for poker news, discussion of poker controversies, and some strategy. But you have to learn to skim.

Regards,

Rick

skp · #3 09-24-2003, 11:34 PM

Other RGP posters well worth reading (although some rarely post these days):

Abdul Jalib

Tom Weideman

Sean Duffy

Terrence Chan

Quadnines (the guy is a nitpicker and has a onetrack mind to be sure but I have to disagree with Vince's observation that this guy has never really played poker. The man may be an irritating, condescending pest but his poker knowledge is real and obvious. I learn from his posts).

Barry T has some old posts that are quite good. BTW, his CP articles are consistently excellent.

Rick Nebiolo · #4 09-25-2003, 03:39 AM

skp,

I already have Abdul and Tom and agree regarding Quadnines - and wonder who he is. Sean I should add but haven't seen much of his stuff lately. I'll do a search. Terrance is very good too. Seems busy with Stars stuff.

Didn't know about Barry T posting on RGP. Agree his Card Player articles are very good. Love Google's Advanced Group Search. 2+2 needs something half as good.

Regards,

Rick

Rick Nebiolo · #5 09-25-2003, 02:15 PM

skp,

Regarding Barry Tennenbaum (sp?), what name did he post under on RGP?

~ Rick

skp · #6 09-26-2003, 01:07 PM

"Barry Tanenbaum", I believe

Rick Nebiolo · #7 09-26-2003, 03:31 PM

skp,

That's it. Just Googled it and got the shortcut of his posts on my desktop for later reading.

Thanks!

Rick

skp · #8 09-26-2003, 01:19 PM

I forgot about Izmet fekali...always worth reading

Divad Yksnal · #9 09-24-2003, 05:41 AM

It's human nature to form a we against them mentality, that's part of it.

Rec.gambling.poker is much older than twoplustwo, and many of the old veteran posters have been around so long, that poker discussions are boring and never contain new info. That's part of it.

Mason Malmuth is very disliked by a large number of people, including RGP. That's part of it.

Some posters on rgp have animosity towards everyone, including themselves. That's part of it.

Most people are followers, since the "leadership" of rgp consists of those who post the most, and not the best, they can direct the nature newsgroup. Some of the leadership is bitter. That's part of it.

Most of the longterm posters on rgp have posted good things here and vice versa. That's not part of it.

DY

Mason Malmuth · #10 09-24-2003, 12:37 PM

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Mason Malmuth is very disliked by a large number of people, including RGP. That's part of it.

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I strongly disagree with statements like this. The vast majority of posts that I see which are negative towards myself are people who I either don't know at all or hardly know.

MM