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Simple but confused with AK
5-handed
Completely unknown player who just sat down one orbit ago raises UTG. LAG coldcalls in the CO. I 3-bet AdKd on the button. Blinds fold. Unknown caps it. Lag calls 2 again. I call. Flop: 8s8h3d Unknown Bets, Lag calls, I call? Turn: 9c Unknown bets, Lag folds, I fold? 1. Is this standard against a completely unknown? Should I have raised the flop? 2. What if the Unknown was a Lag aswell? |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
what limits?
Most capping ranges in early > AK |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
3-6
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
This is tough without any read at all. I may call down as there's a chance A) we're ahead/splitting or B) we'll improve to best hand. It will also be nice to look hiim up here.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
I like your line. Raising the flop is probably going to get you 3-bet here, even if you're tying or beating the unknown. If he's a LAG I think we have to call this down, though.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
Pot's massive. I don't think calling the hand down here is awful.
Pot is 9.25BB's to you on the turn HU, so effective odds to call down are 10.25:2. If our AK is ahead 1 time in 5 then we profit. We don't need to even be ahead that often though as we probably have 3 or 6 outs here to improve. I think a call down is profitable, and gives us some information on the unknown to top it off. |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
OK scratch my original advice, I agree with Krimson. A call down is good. Pot is big and we're good at least 20 % of the time here.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
I think we are raising or folding this flop vs an unknown. He's likely to have a PP which leans me towards folding. I guess a peel isn't bad with our backdoor draw. I don't understand how an unknown can be a LAG--he is unknown. I guess a LAG by stats and no other reads. I have noticed a lot of LAGs do the obligatory pre-flop cap with total junk like Ax. It's [censored] up. This makes me want to get to showdown. So I guess post-flop, I'd be /call/call/call/.
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
[ QUOTE ]
I think we are raising or folding this flop vs an unknown. He's likely to have a PP which leans me towards folding. I guess a peel isn't bad with our backdoor draw. I don't understand how an unknown can be a LAG--he is unknown. I guess a LAG by stats and no other reads. I have noticed a lot of LAGs do the obligatory pre-flop cap with total junk like Ax. It's [censored] up. This makes me want to get to showdown. So I guess post-flop, I'd be /call/call/call/. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Folding on the flop would be really bad since were closing the action. Esp with our backdoor draw. 2. I didnt say (at least didnt mean to say) the unknown was LAG. The second part was hypothetical... Like how would my play differ if he was a LAG. I asked this because as the session went on I could tell he was very laggish. However when this hand came up I had no idea. |
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Re: Simple but confused with AK
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[ QUOTE ] I think we are raising or folding this flop vs an unknown. He's likely to have a PP which leans me towards folding. I guess a peel isn't bad with our backdoor draw. I don't understand how an unknown can be a LAG--he is unknown. I guess a LAG by stats and no other reads. I have noticed a lot of LAGs do the obligatory pre-flop cap with total junk like Ax. It's [censored] up. This makes me want to get to showdown. So I guess post-flop, I'd be /call/call/call/. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Folding on the flop would be really bad since were closing the action. Esp with our backdoor draw. 2. I didnt say (at least didnt mean to say) the unknown was LAG. The second part was hypothetical... Like how would my play differ if he was a LAG. I asked this because as the session went on I could tell he was very laggish. However when this hand came up I had no idea. [/ QUOTE ] I only suggest folding on the flop against an unknown, as all we have seen is aggression. We are (at best) ahead of something like KQs, but not likely. Maybe we are splitting, perhaps a bit behind to a mid-PP, or totally sucky to be drawing thin or dead. As you can see my reasoning shifted to calling down is not bad, but I still think we are behind. |
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