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$55: Standard small overpair, take 2
I can never decide what to do in this spot if I don't have any good reads.
Level 2 (15/30) Hero (t1040) Button (t2027) SB (t1525) BB (t530) UTG (t1438) UTG+1 (t915) MP1 (t1070) MP2 (t680) MP3 (t775) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. 4 folds, MP3 raises to t90, Hero calls t90, Button calls t90, 2 folds. Flop: (t315) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players) <font color="red">MP3 bets t225 </font> , Hero??? |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
i think call/push/fold are all ok. i have a slight preference for pushing, then folding, the calling.
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
i feel comfortable with a push here, although it's tough without reads.
whatever you do though, don't call. |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
i actually like a call here, and a fold to another turn bet on another undercard.
in my experience, the majority of people (maybe not a huge majority) will not fire two barrels with AK-AQ. OTOH, I don't like the idea of blindly sticking my chips in where we have done absolutely nothing to eliminate JJ-AA from villian's range. i often take very passive lines with these sorts of hands to try to gain information with our very limited amount of chips. i think a (strong) argument could be made for folding this preflop, specifically because of this situation. |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
Boy, that's an interesting line. Call the flop and fold to a turn bet. I assume you check behind if it's checked to you? Or bet and hope he's not trapping?
You'd be getting such good pot odds on a turn bet, it would be hard to fold. It's hard for me to believe that you'd be behind so much of the time that folding would be correct. I can't see calling in the first place unless you were committed to going all the way with it. |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
[ QUOTE ]
Boy, that's an interesting line. Call the flop and fold to a turn bet. I assume you check behind if it's checked to you? Or bet and hope he's not trapping? You'd be getting such good pot odds on a turn bet, it would be hard to fold. It's hard for me to believe that you'd be behind so much of the time that folding would be correct. I can't see calling in the first place unless you were committed to going all the way with it. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, im not saying my line is the best line, i'm just kind of thinking out loud, (hopefully) for the benefit of those reading (and myself). if my hurriedly completed math is right, villian will have about 450 chips left on the turn, and the pot will be a little under 700. i think it's reasonable to think he doesn't push AK here more than 1/3 of the time. i would check through a blank turn and probably call a villian push on a blank river (read: a blank for me in this case is a nonace). the ever-present problem of SNGs is that you just dont have enough chips to really effectively put villian on a more narrow range of hands than just, any hand that raises preflop and CBs -- a pretty big range. which is why the answer, most of the time, is just to fold here. that being said, i certainly have not been convinced that calling < pushing, which i think is way too reckless. |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
It's always very tricky, this kind of situation, because of the fact the board is two-tone. You can never tell if he's cont betting to pick up the pot, or protecting his hand (which beats TT here, or at best, splits) from either of you two having draws.
To be honest, because of the fact he's betting into two players rather than it being HU, I think it's a fold.. if he'd bet a smaller amount of the pot, say 1/2, or even 2/3rds, I like the move in more. I'm just not sure it's worth "looking him up" at this point of the tournament. If I had AK here OOP to two callers, I don't think I'd be betting the pot for instance, unless exactly AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or AQ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Obviously, although TT is ahead of these, it's probably not by enough to say a push is correct. Good hand though and hopefully it generates some good discussion. I think pf is okay by the way too, although sometimes I could fold there. |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
tangent:
i think i might call if the button pushes and MP folds. is that crazy? edit: this is assuming i called the first bet from MP. |
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
i don't think that's crazy at all because i don't see button playing QQ-AA as a call preflop, although maybe JJ. what was your thinking?
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Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
Well, it's silly to just call the MP bet if you're willing to put all your chips in the middle. But you might be priced in if you played that way.
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